I conceed.

[pacfan]

Let me intrude a bit. To me the Clintons represent the good 'ol days of America when the economy thrived driven by technology commerce and when it was in relative peace. For those who sez she's just a women - I bet the mister will be right behind her giving necessary advices as well as moral support. But well, seems like its going to be Obama.

[El Kabong]

amat, it's code for that old "The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists" thing....especially when we're not getting anything for it.



Well I will say after this war ends then our technology will once again spike up and our economy will boom like never before. War is the best thing for a floundering economy....think about the government grants for research and development of anything used in war: communication devices, computers, engines, etc.

After the war is done and when there is a little more political stability, when we understand where the new Pres (whomever it may be) is taking us, we're going to have the market come back up and the dollar will come back in value and everything will be right with the world.

The last couple of Presidents inherited recessions or stagnant economies.

[Youngblood]

Rumors starting to circulate that both camps are talking about an exit strategy for Hillary. Get on with it, I say.

If the Dems want to win this thing, they need both of these people on the ticket! Eat some crow Hillary! This thing is over for you. Join forces and start putting that fight together against Lyle...err, I mean...The Republicans.

[boozeboxer]

I would actually think the Democrats would be better off with Edwards or Biden as VP. Someone to appeal to the more conservative democrats.

[El Kabong]

Edwards Biden? Conservative?....surely you jest



If you want the "Reagan Democrats" you pick Evan Bayh....John Edwards #1 Has already run for VP AND got his ass fucking handed to him in VP debates and #2 John Edwards is ALMOST as much of a communist as Obama.

Joe Biden has a big mouth and just talks all the fucking time which wouldn't be so bad unless his words wouldn't be twisted.....God love the guy, he's one of the few Democrats I like but he's just not VP material, plus he's no spring chicken either.

Anyone hear about the fucking UN trying to investigate America for racism in this election....this is fucking bullcrap...I'm sick of the fucking UN. McCain is a good guy and running a clean campaign debating on the issues and I'm sorry but Rev. Wright is a BIG issue because of his crazy ass beliefs.....if the fucking President doesn't like and appreciate America then who the hell will?

[boozeboxer]

I meant conservative as in a white male Lyle.

[Spicoli]

Some close friends need to take Clinton aside and help her come to an understanding that the writing is on the wall.What in the hell is she doing with that reference too JFK assassination ?? She is soooo tired and worn.

[Kirkland Laing]

amat, it's code for that old "The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists" thing....especially when we're not getting anything for it.



Well I will say after this war ends then our technology will once again spike up and our economy will boom like never before. War is the best thing for a floundering economy....think about the government grants for research and development of anything used in war: communication devices, computers, engines, etc.

After the war is done and when there is a little more political stability, when we understand where the new Pres (whomever it may be) is taking us, we're going to have the market come back up and the dollar will come back in value and everything will be right with the world.

The last couple of Presidents inherited recessions or stagnant economies.

The US isn't leaving Iraq for decades unless the Iraqis boot you out. Still many trillions to be spent there by America to keep Iran in power in Baghdad.

In what ways will technology spike and the economy improve if the US were forced out of Iraq?

[Douglas]

amat, it's code for that old "The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists" thing....especially when we're not getting anything for it.



Well I will say after this war ends then our technology will once again spike up and our economy will boom like never before. War is the best thing for a floundering economy....think about the government grants for research and development of anything used in war: communication devices, computers, engines, etc.

After the war is done and when there is a little more political stability, when we understand where the new Pres (whomever it may be) is taking us, we're going to have the market come back up and the dollar will come back in value and everything will be right with the world.

The last couple of Presidents inherited recessions or stagnant economies.

The US isn't leaving Iraq for decades unless the Iraqis boot you out. Still many trillions to be spent there by America to keep Iran in power in Baghdad.

In what ways will technology spike and the economy improve if the US were forced out of Iraq?

Actually, I thought it was in times of war technology was vastly improved... Or at least it was supposed to be.

[Kirkland Laing]

amat, it's code for that old "The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists" thing....especially when we're not getting anything for it.



Well I will say after this war ends then our technology will once again spike up and our economy will boom like never before. War is the best thing for a floundering economy....think about the government grants for research and development of anything used in war: communication devices, computers, engines, etc.

After the war is done and when there is a little more political stability, when we understand where the new Pres (whomever it may be) is taking us, we're going to have the market come back up and the dollar will come back in value and everything will be right with the world.

The last couple of Presidents inherited recessions or stagnant economies.

The US isn't leaving Iraq for decades unless the Iraqis boot you out. Still many trillions to be spent there by America to keep Iran in power in Baghdad.

In what ways will technology spike and the economy improve if the US were forced out of Iraq?

Actually, I thought it was in times of war technology was vastly improved... Or at least it was supposed to be.

US technology is being defeated by a bunch of Iraqis armed with garage door openers.

[El Kabong]

....they let you back huh?



Bummer



Well Kirkland if we could get some funding passed and get people actually moving toward truly ENDING the war then we wouldn't have so much trouble but when people grandstand (on both sides but on one side it's totally against anything to do in Iraq....that's the Democrats) it's bad for the actual soldiers there on the ground. The one guy that I KNOW cares about soldiers is John McCain, he was one, he knows what it's like, and he's been to Iraq plenty of times and wants to fill the void we have left in Iraq with a friendly government and yeah we're going to have to keep tabs on them for quite some time but it's worth it to not have to do it again.


The winning of the war has already been done, it's over, we took over 2 countries and destroyed their political infrastructure in a matter of weeks....it was the greatest military victory in the history of man......now the following rebuilding process is perhaps the worst ever in the history of man but that can be turned around as we have seen more recently.

We just have to realize that us leaving Iraq and Afghanistan in total anarchy is going to be less safe for everyone.

[Youngblood]

Hillary about to concede?

Sure looking like it, maybe tonight? Looks like she is suggesting a vp candidacy too.

Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

p.s. I wish Bill would just shut his big stoopid mouth.

[Kirkland Laing]

....they let you back huh?



Bummer



Well Kirkland if we could get some funding passed and get people actually moving toward truly ENDING the war then we wouldn't have so much trouble but when people grandstand (on both sides but on one side it's totally against anything to do in Iraq....that's the Democrats) it's bad for the actual soldiers there on the ground. The one guy that I KNOW cares about soldiers is John McCain, he was one, he knows what it's like, and he's been to Iraq plenty of times and wants to fill the void we have left in Iraq with a friendly government and yeah we're going to have to keep tabs on them for quite some time but it's worth it to not have to do it again.


The winning of the war has already been done, it's over, we took over 2 countries and destroyed their political infrastructure in a matter of weeks....it was the greatest military victory in the history of man......now the following rebuilding process is perhaps the worst ever in the history of man but that can be turned around as we have seen more recently.

We just have to realize that us leaving Iraq and Afghanistan in total anarchy is going to be less safe for everyone.

As far as Iraq and Afghanistan are concerned, Bush invaded Iraq and then was forced by an Iranian Ayatollah to hold elections that allowed Iranian Islamic fundamentalists to take power and now the US army is fighting and dying and the US economy is breaking to keep those guys in power, while the Ayatollahs are all high-fiving each other. There'll be nothing but anarchy in Iraq till we leave.

McCain wants to keep dying in Iraq to keep the bases America has there, but the Iranian Ayatollah looks like he's going to kick America out of Iraq altogether soon. The "rebuilding" process isn't happening at all. Iraq's government won't spend a penny of its own money, the reconstruction funds are all American, and they're being robbed by the Iraqi government.

In Afghanistan the leader wants to negotiate a treaty with the Taliban because there's no way he can defeat them.

Both wars are strategic disasters for Bush and America.