Is There A Case For A Boxer Being Higher Than SRR P4P ??

[ICB]

IMO No! But Pepp. Armstrong, Ali & Duran are up there imo (I know you disagree with Duran)

No i don't disagree with Duran anymore BIG H i made a topic along time ago let me try and find it for you.

[ICB]

IMO No! But Pepp. Armstrong, Ali & Duran are up there imo (I know you disagree with Duran)

No i don't disagree with Duran anymore BIG H i made a topic along time ago let me try and find it for you.

Found it here you go.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...wrong-way.html

[CutMeMick]

I would say Armstrong & Ali def. have an arguement.

Then theres some that can come close 'to having an arguement' but fall short:

Duran, Pernell, Alexis, JCC, SRL, Hearns & Finito but like I said fall short...

[ICB]

I would say Armstrong & Ali def. have an arguement.

Then theres some that can come close 'to having an arguement' but fall short:

Duran, Pernell, Alexis, JCC, SRL, Hearns & Finito but like I said fall short...

Some people say Sam Langford is best P4P fighter ever, because he fought at Lightweight and even fought Heavyweights, but i don't know much about Langford to make a case, i bet BK could though shame he isn't here.

[Beanflicker]

When deciding the #1 of all time, you have to factor in EVERYTHING, not just achievements IMO.

Depending on how he closes out his career, I think Floyd Mayweather could have a good case for being the greatest of all time. I know the Floyd haters are going to laugh at this, but if you put aside any personal bias while watching his fight footage its easy to see that you can put this guy up with anyone who ever fought. I mean where are Floyd's weaknesses? He can seemingly adapt to any style. Where Robinson has the edge in punching power, Floyd has a serious edge in superior defense.

[The Fightfan]

When deciding the #1 of all time, you have to factor in EVERYTHING, not just achievements IMO.

Depending on how he closes out his career, I think Floyd Mayweather could have a good case for being the greatest of all time. I know the Floyd haters are going to laugh at this, but if you put aside any personal bias while watching his fight footage its easy to see that you can put this guy up with anyone who ever fought. I mean where are Floyd's weaknesses? He can seemingly adapt to any style. Where Robinson has the edge in punching power, Floyd has a serious edge in superior defense.

In my book Robinson is quicker,stronger,better footwork,and hell throw's twice as many punches so stamina is on Robinson's side.Chin has to go to Robinson down alot more than Floyd but all Ray's knockdown's came from bigger men middleweight's when he was a welterweight,maybe if Floyd openend up a little more maybe we can see what his jaw is all about. I'm sorry if I am coming off like I'm nagging but to put Mayweather in a Ray Robinson's class is just ridiculous.

[oakleyno1]

duran and sugar ray leonard definetly have a case . i dont rate SRR as p4p number one of all time i dont think you can when you have to pick out of

the unbeatable roy jones for most of his career
leonard who beat hagler the invincible
hagler himself should be nearish the top
duran who came bacxk so many times
larry holmes who dominated for 7 years
and of course ali

as have been mentioned there are more

[oakleyno1]

When deciding the #1 of all time, you have to factor in EVERYTHING, not just achievements IMO.

Depending on how he closes out his career, I think Floyd Mayweather could have a good case for being the greatest of all time. I know the Floyd haters are going to laugh at this, but if you put aside any personal bias while watching his fight footage its easy to see that you can put this guy up with anyone who ever fought. I mean where are Floyd's weaknesses? He can seemingly adapt to any style. Where Robinson has the edge in punching power, Floyd has a serious edge in superior defense.

In my book Robinson is quicker,stronger,better footwork,and hell throw's twice as many punches so stamina is on Robinson's side.Chin has to go to Robinson down alot more than Floyd but all Ray's knockdown's came from bigger men middleweight's when he was a welterweight,maybe if Floyd openend up a little more maybe we can see what his jaw is all about. I'm sorry if I am coming off like I'm nagging but to put Mayweather in a Ray Robinson's class is just ridiculous.

unfortunetly for me hatton and cotto who al hate him! haha i think he probably is in robinsons class to be honest. to beat corrales by tko dela hoya, hatton castillo twice etcetc unfortunetly i think he is as good as robinson and probably only second to roy jones in natrul talent

[Beanflicker]

In my book Robinson is quicker,stronger,better footwork,and hell throw's twice as many punches so stamina is on Robinson's side.Chin has to go to Robinson down alot more than Floyd but all Ray's knockdown's came from bigger men middleweight's when he was a welterweight,maybe if Floyd openend up a little more maybe we can see what his jaw is all about. I'm sorry if I am coming off like I'm nagging but to put Mayweather in a Ray Robinson's class is just ridiculous.

Speed? I dont think so, Floyd has the speed advantage, albiet not by much. Stamina is on Robinson's side? How do you figure, when have you ever seen PBF gas out? Chin? Probably, but Floyd can take a punch, he's been tagged before. Better footwork? Floyd could move around just as well and fast (if not better and faster) than Ray Robinson. Putting Floyd in SRR's class is rediculous? I don't think so. Floyd's only flaw is his shitty personality. It creates bias, and causes people to downplay his skills and ability.

I gaurentee you, future generations of boxing fans will put Floyd up there. Maybe even as #1, because for the most part they'll be judging him on his in-ring exploits, not all the other bullshit. Its like SRR, when we think of him we don't think of him as the arrogant prick he was. We don't think of the guy who cheated on and beat the shit out of his wife. We don't think of him as the guy who would threaten to pull out of a fight at the last second unless he got more money. No one says "Ahhh fuck SRR he ducked Charley Burley he was scared." We just watch his fight tapes and know that he was the real deal and had the goods. When all of this "Money Mayweather" bullshit is all gone, and people can look at his career and performances objectively, they'll view him as one of if not the greatest IMHO

[Taeth]

Only Ali and Gene Tunney for me.

[Kev]

I'm just suprised Christian Mijares hasn't been mentioned

[Deanrw]

When deciding the #1 of all time, you have to factor in EVERYTHING, not just achievements IMO.

Depending on how he closes out his career, I think Floyd Mayweather could have a good case for being the greatest of all time. I know the Floyd haters are going to laugh at this, but if you put aside any personal bias while watching his fight footage its easy to see that you can put this guy up with anyone who ever fought. I mean where are Floyd's weaknesses? He can seemingly adapt to any style. Where Robinson has the edge in punching power, Floyd has a serious edge in superior defense.

It has nothing to do with hating and everything to do with him refusing to test how good he actually is. He was fantastic in the lower weight classes, but has shunned the most deserving competition in his higher ones. That is not hate, but well established opinion by many. Floyd gets a lot of flack for a reason and not just because.

I heard he is now going to give up his WBC belt. With somewhat of a mini unification fight coming up, could it be because he does not want to get pressured into a full unification fight with the winner? Who knows, but the timing really sucks.

[Master]

Roy Jones Jnr is the best p4p fighter I have ever seen and if he retired after the Ruiz fight we would all say that he was number 1. Well most of us