How long does Cotto have?

[Taeth]

I think Cotto has improved in his style and I think as the general meaning of this topic, his improvement on style might possibly effect how long he stays boxing for...
One thing is that some of his defence is leaky..... I think Cotto fought very well against Judah,,, and Judah definetely put on a show and would have beat lesser opponents that night... But Cotto was open to a lot of counters that night... Judah took advantage of a few and had he had a slightly harder punch and could have taken advantage of them more often.. Cotto would have felt it..

I do think he needs to improve on those small areas.... This is where he is going to have trouble against fighters like Floyd... He can take Floy'd punishment better than Ricky.. Dare I say it he might box floyd better than Ricky did... But still, to beat Floyd, you are going to need to punish him with a LOT of good blows.... And Cotto may have to take a lot of good Floyd blows himself to get all of his off.. He'll take them well, he'll make his count...
But any fighter that matched up against someone like Floyd,,, you can almost gaurantee any of your weakness's will be exposed if you don't get them up to scratch.

That being said, he's improving... And when he beats Margarito and gets a matchup with Floyd then it's something he's going to have to look at even more closely for improvement...

The guy is a fucking machine though, and every single thing he improves is another metal plate being welded on the outside of the tank......

He is a tank, but Floyd is a finely tuned piece of machinery himself. Both of them are so natural and so talented that its scary, and you can count the mistakes Floyd has done in the ring on one hand in the past 5 years. Floyd is virtually flawless in the ring, Roy made mistakes, Ali made mistakes, Leonard made mistakes, While Floyd isn't as physically talented as them, at least not at WW, he definitely has the other tools that more than make up for his lack of power and size.

[Dizaster]

I think Cotto has improved in his style and I think as the general meaning of this topic, his improvement on style might possibly effect how long he stays boxing for...
One thing is that some of his defence is leaky..... I think Cotto fought very well against Judah,,, and Judah definetely put on a show and would have beat lesser opponents that night... But Cotto was open to a lot of counters that night... Judah took advantage of a few and had he had a slightly harder punch and could have taken advantage of them more often.. Cotto would have felt it..

I do think he needs to improve on those small areas.... This is where he is going to have trouble against fighters like Floyd... He can take Floy'd punishment better than Ricky.. Dare I say it he might box floyd better than Ricky did... But still, to beat Floyd, you are going to need to punish him with a LOT of good blows.... And Cotto may have to take a lot of good Floyd blows himself to get all of his off.. He'll take them well, he'll make his count...
But any fighter that matched up against someone like Floyd,,, you can almost gaurantee any of your weakness's will be exposed if you don't get them up to scratch.

That being said, he's improving... And when he beats Margarito and gets a matchup with Floyd then it's something he's going to have to look at even more closely for improvement...

The guy is a fucking machine though, and every single thing he improves is another metal plate being welded on the outside of the tank......

He is a tank, but Floyd is a finely tuned piece of machinery himself. Both of them are so natural and so talented that its scary, and you can count the mistakes Floyd has done in the ring on one hand in the past 5 years. Floyd is virtually flawless in the ring, Roy made mistakes, Ali made mistakes, Leonard made mistakes, While Floyd isn't as physically talented as them, at least not at WW, he definitely has the other tools that more than make up for his lack of power and size.

Exactly man.... I can't picture for a second Cotto just openly tearing up Mayweather without the most resistance he will ever face inside that ring for probably his entire career... If Cotto beats Mayweather (hopefully via KO), it could make it one of the great fights in recent boxing history.. Certainly as far as huge moments in boxing goes, Cotto KO'ing Mayweather would almost top the lot for me, as a fan....
But for the very reason that I know how good Floyd is.. and like you said, the word Flawless isn't exhagurating his boxing skills at all..
He may have weakness's, but it'll take one hell of a talented, skilled & tough fighter to exploit them to the point of beating Floyd... And it's hard to see it happening against anyone.. Even Cotto..

But right now, i'm am just absolutely dieing to see these 2 guys face to face...

[HattonTheHammer]

torres was the only cotto fight where i genuinely thought he was being out worked and had the potential to be KO`d if he wasnt able to get back to working behind the life jab.

Corley hurt him on several occasions though never truly capitalised, quintana also got in with some stingers early on though never followed it up.

Apart from that though i cant remember ever seeing cotto in danger of being KO`d. Mosley fought too much of a strategic fight, the judah fight however good to watch became very one sided after about 4-5 when zab was no longer able to connect with that straight left and uppercuts.

Id suggest cotto`s style makes him viable to carry on into his mid 30s and if the man really wants to cement a legacy on the sport im guessing he`ll fight at least another 6-8 times in his career!!

[Macho]

torres was the only cotto fight where i genuinely thought he was being out worked and had the potential to be KO`d if he wasnt able to get back to working behind the life jab.

Corley hurt him on several occasions though never truly capitalised, quintana also got in with some stingers early on though never followed it up.

Apart from that though i cant remember ever seeing cotto in danger of being KO`d. Mosley fought too much of a strategic fight, the judah fight however good to watch became very one sided after about 4-5 when zab was no longer able to connect with that straight left and uppercuts.

Id suggest cotto`s style makes him viable to carry on into his mid 30s and if the man really wants to cement a legacy on the sport im guessing he`ll fight at least another 6-8 times in his career!!

I agree , hattonthehammer , also i think that he when get the fight with Floyd , he can make 2-3 fights in JMW 154 , his heigh isnt too enough , but IMO he can make it and then when get his 30-31 he can retire and enjoy everything that he mader in boxing ..........

[Pugilistic]

Cotto's fight with Torres was a war but judah one for example was not, He lost a couple of the earlier rounds but he dominated from the middle rounds to the end.

[HattonTheHammer]

torres was the only cotto fight where i genuinely thought he was being out worked and had the potential to be KO`d if he wasnt able to get back to working behind the life jab.

Corley hurt him on several occasions though never truly capitalised, quintana also got in with some stingers early on though never followed it up.

Apart from that though i cant remember ever seeing cotto in danger of being KO`d. Mosley fought too much of a strategic fight, the judah fight however good to watch became very one sided after about 4-5 when zab was no longer able to connect with that straight left and uppercuts.

Id suggest cotto`s style makes him viable to carry on into his mid 30s and if the man really wants to cement a legacy on the sport im guessing he`ll fight at least another 6-8 times in his career!!

I agree , hattonthehammer , also i think that he when get the fight with Floyd , he can make 2-3 fights in JMW 154 , his heigh isnt too enough , but IMO he can make it and then when get his 30-31 he can retire and enjoy everything that he mader in boxing ..........

spot on macho

Cotto could easily make the transition to 154 and what with the current level of competition at that weight i suspect he`d dominate it just as much as he did at 140 and 147....mad reps coming your way when im able to rep you again.

Mayweather moving up just seems stupid, eventually he is going to find that at a much heavier weight even those snap punches that come from nowhere wont hurt an opponent half as much as it would at his original weight.

Cotto though is your typical ring bully, he`d fit right in at that weight and who knows a possible showdown with ODLH could eventually be on the cards as it seems quite obvious PBF is doing everything to avoid miguel!!

[Taeth]

No it doesn't Mayweather used the same tactics with Hatton, and they fought. He is just allowing the fight to grow into something that will make him the most money possible without allowing himself to get too old to be able to keep up with Cotto. I still don't see fighting Oscar being a whole lot easier than fighting Cotto.

[HattonTheHammer]

No it doesn't Mayweather used the same tactics with Hatton, and they fought. He is just allowing the fight to grow into something that will make him the most money possible without allowing himself to get too old to be able to keep up with Cotto. I still don't see fighting Oscar being a whole lot easier than fighting Cotto.

Floyd is only fighting once from here on in because he realises he is now the most marketable boxer on the planet and by fighting ODLH now and somebody else lets say next summer he is able to keep the bank balance ticking over and furthermore avoid cotto at every turning.

I dont blame PBF for fighting ODLH over miguel this time around. Too much money involved for too little a risk for floyd to turn it down.Though once he has dispatched of ODLH a 2nd time around and miguel sees off marg the fight HAS to happen otherwise i like most hardcore boxing fans will always remember floyd for avoiding cotto like the plague.

Beat Cotto and floyds legacy is mantained for generations!!!

[hitmanhatton]

torres was the only cotto fight where i genuinely thought he was being out worked and had the potential to be KO`d if he wasnt able to get back to working behind the life jab.

Corley hurt him on several occasions though never truly capitalised, quintana also got in with some stingers early on though never followed it up.

Apart from that though i cant remember ever seeing cotto in danger of being KO`d. Mosley fought too much of a strategic fight, the judah fight however good to watch became very one sided after about 4-5 when zab was no longer able to connect with that straight left and uppercuts.

Id suggest cotto`s style makes him viable to carry on into his mid 30s and if the man really wants to cement a legacy on the sport im guessing he`ll fight at least another 6-8 times in his career!!

I agree , hattonthehammer , also i think that he when get the fight with Floyd , he can make 2-3 fights in JMW 154 , his heigh isnt too enough , but IMO he can make it and then when get his 30-31 he can retire and enjoy everything that he mader in boxing ..........

spot on macho

Cotto could easily make the transition to 154 and what with the current level of competition at that weight i suspect he`d dominate it just as much as he did at 140 and 147....mad reps coming your way when im able to rep you again.

Mayweather moving up just seems stupid, eventually he is going to find that at a much heavier weight even those snap punches that come from nowhere wont hurt an opponent half as much as it would at his original weight.

Cotto though is your typical ring bully, he`d fit right in at that weight and who knows a possible showdown with ODLH could eventually be on the cards as it seems quite obvious PBF is doing everything to avoid miguel!!

ye he could definatley move up to 154 i think, but he should onyl really do this any time soon if its to fight oscar, im not too keen on any possible showdowns with the likes of cory spinks or verno phillips

i think he would beast oscar though till a late stoppage, with a nice body shot, hopkins style

[ElTerribleMorales]

Cotto's already been quoted saying that he's hanging the gloves up by 2010, and that that's why he's getting his promotional and managing company started in PR, he's already planning out his future after he's done fighting, so don't expect him to stick around forever

[gyrokai]

He's already laid the foundation for a potential hall of fame career. At this pace, only one more fight after Margarito (if he wins) can cement his legacy into Canastota. That one fight, if chosen correctly... and as Cotto's management has shown ... it WILL be chosen correctly.... he will fight Floyd or someone else BIG very soon.

Damn, Cotto is b*d@ss. Top Rank really has managed him FLAWLESSLY.