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    Default Re: Not The Same Old excuse Again........

    Quote Originally Posted by liquid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

    For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

    And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.
    Well I'm a HUGE Mayweather fan and I have to say I'm disappointed he's taking on De La Hoya again. The first one was enough for me. Even though it was a SD win for PBF, it wasn't interesting enough to do it again. Miguel Cotto is a huge draw, RIGHT NOW, and unlike Margarito, whom pretty much nobody knew, save for a few cadre of fans, Cotto has a huge fan base. Mayweather would not be carrying the card like he would have with Margarito. A fight with Cotto would probably make almost as much money as his fight with Hatton. I know Oscar puts butts in seats, but at this point he doesn't deserve it. Oscar has not beaten a significant opponent in more than five years. Vernon Forrest is a more legit 154 lber than Oscar. I seriously hope De La Hoya gets put unconscious for the first time only because I want his status lowered so he has to get out of the way of the top guys at 147 and 154. Oscar does not deserve to be there and maybe if he gets humiliated in the ring fans won't want to see him as much.


    For the hope of seeing mayweather-cotto i didnt want this fight to happen, but as a boxing fan who actually enjoyed seeing the close run first fight im more than happy to see this fight go down.

    Cotto and perhaps mosley apart i genuinely cannot name a fight for Floyd that would both be a viable and worthy contest to take on than a rematch with ODLH who came closer than anyone ever has to beating PBF.

    Its not ODLH`s fault floyd only chooses to fight once a year now
    Its not ODLH`s fault team mayweather didnt choose instead to fight miguel
    Its not ODLH`s fault since the time frame of their last contest nobody has stepped up to the plate to make Mayweather consider any other fight than this one

    Dont blame GBP for not making mayweather-cotto as im quite sure ODLH being the smart businessman would happily of steped aside to promote this one if it meant a few extra bucks in the bank balance.

    Floyd-cotto isnt happening because just right now floyd doesnt want it to happen!!!

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    Default Re: Not The Same Old excuse Again........

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.
    Well I'm a HUGE Mayweather fan and I have to say I'm disappointed he's taking on De La Hoya again. The first one was enough for me. Even though it was a SD win for PBF, it wasn't interesting enough to do it again. Miguel Cotto is a huge draw, RIGHT NOW, and unlike Margarito, whom pretty much nobody knew, save for a few cadre of fans, Cotto has a huge fan base. Mayweather would not be carrying the card like he would have with Margarito. A fight with Cotto would probably make almost as much money as his fight with Hatton. I know Oscar puts butts in seats, but at this point he doesn't deserve it. Oscar has not beaten a significant opponent in more than five years. Vernon Forrest is a more legit 154 lber than Oscar. I seriously hope De La Hoya gets put unconscious for the first time only because I want his status lowered so he has to get out of the way of the top guys at 147 and 154. Oscar does not deserve to be there and maybe if he gets humiliated in the ring fans won't want to see him as much.[/quote]



    For the hope of seeing mayweather-cotto i didnt want this fight to happen, but as a boxing fan who actually enjoyed seeing the close run first fight im more than happy to see this fight go down.

    Cotto and perhaps mosley apart i genuinely cannot name a fight for Floyd that would both be a viable and worthy contest to take on than a rematch with ODLH who came closer than anyone ever has to beating PBF.

    Its not ODLH`s fault floyd only chooses to fight once a year now
    Its not ODLH`s fault team mayweather didnt choose instead to fight miguel
    Its not ODLH`s fault since the time frame of their last contest nobody has stepped up to the plate to make Mayweather consider any other fight than this one

    Dont blame GBP for not making mayweather-cotto as im quite sure ODLH being the smart businessman would happily of steped aside to promote this one if it meant a few extra bucks in the bank balance.

    Floyd-cotto isnt happening because just right now floyd doesnt want it to happen!!![/quote]

    You're missing my point: I'm not blaming ODH--I'm blaming him AND Mayweather. Oscar for not being the force that his fans prop him up to be and Mayweather for falling over into every vat of cash that comes his way. He could still make a ton of dough against Cotto- not Mosley, but that's a dismissible match. But how do you justify fighting the p4p champ when you haven't beaten anyone on any kind of radar in over half a decade? Oscar fans, or people who plunk down PPV dollars to see him, are suckers.

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    Default Re: Not The Same Old excuse Again........

    de la Hoya and Golden Boy are ruining boxing for boxing fans. It is almost like they have a financial monopoly on boxing which is fine, but when you put together low risk/high reward fights, the public loses out, not only in the pocketbook, but in terms of interest/excitement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    de la Hoya and Golden Boy are ruining boxing for boxing fans. It is almost like they have a financial monopoly on boxing which is fine, but when you put together low risk/high reward fights, the public loses out, not only in the pocketbook, but in terms of interest/excitement.
    i disagree completely, i think Golden Boy Promotions has only tried to make the best fights possible as of late, Pacquiao/Marquez II is a big showing of this, as well as Cotto/Mosley and a bunch of other fights put together with talent from other big promotion companies (especially Top Rank)

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    My problem with Golden Boy is...well I have a few. And that sucks because I was so high on Golden Boy and really thought they were going to revolutionize boxing. However, it looks like they have become just another promotion company which sucks.

    For one, he hasn't done those things he said he would do in the leadup to Barrera-Juarez II in making a boxing summit, pushing for a national commission and all that stuff to advance the sport.

    He hasn't done enough developing of his prospects. Barely any shows off TV and the only time his prospects get a chance to fight is on the undercards of big events. Those aren't often enough.

    And I really am uneasy about his acquisition of The Ring, just seems like a conflict of interest.

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    Default Re: Not The Same Old excuse Again........

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    My problem with Golden Boy is...well I have a few. And that sucks because I was so high on Golden Boy and really thought they were going to revolutionize boxing. However, it looks like they have become just another promotion company which sucks.

    For one, he hasn't done those things he said he would do in the leadup to Barrera-Juarez II in making a boxing summit, pushing for a national commission and all that stuff to advance the sport.

    He hasn't done enough developing of his prospects. Barely any shows off TV and the only time his prospects get a chance to fight is on the undercards of big events. Those aren't often enough.

    And I really am uneasy about his acquisition of The Ring, just seems like a conflict of interest.
    I feel exactly the same way. GBP's apparent attempt to monopolize the LW division doesn't sit well with me either.

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