Not The Same Old excuse Again........

[Bx730NY]

I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?

If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........

Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

I just don't understand SOME of floyds fans in here. Did you guys just fall in love with what he says or what?

As a fan Cotto, I would be hurt, hold on let me correct myself, I would be crushed if he lost a fight. That being said, I don't want him to avoid fighting guys that can conceivably beat him. That's the mark or greatness right there: Taking On All The Top Challenges

It seems that Cotto fans in here have a lot more confidence in their man than floyds fans do.

Believe me, If floyd didn't realize that he's cheating the sport (especially his own fans) he and his team wouldn't keep explaining themselves about why they're not fighting the top guys of TODAY.

[Althugz]

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If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........

Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

It seems that Cotto fans in here have a lot more confidence in their man than floyds fans do.
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Oh no don't get me wrong i'm supremely confident that Floyd whoops Cotto every day of the week and twice on a Sunday but that doesn't stop me being dissapointed that the fight hasn't happened yet. I say yet because just like Mar said..i'm sure it will happen. Once Cotto is worth enough, and he will be soon, then it's on.
My only concern is that Floyd waits too long and shifts the balance of the fight into Cotto's favour. Floyd's not exactly a spring chicken and he's a fighter who relies heavily on reflexes. They'll be the first thing to go..That's my only concern. Otherwise I forsee a victory for PBF.

[roheblius]

I mostly agree. Floyd is at his earning peak. Why not go with DLH again for the most money possible? He has to raise his star power so that when he fights guys who might not be on his level from a box office standpoint, they'll be coming after him, making it more compelling. It's just smart business no matter how much fans don't want to see him and DLH again.

I think the dynamics of their second fight make it interesting or at least, the build up interesting.

[Bx730NY]

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Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

It seems that Cotto fans in here have a lot more confidence in their man than floyds fans do.

Oh no don't get me wrong i'm supremely confident that Floyd whoops Cotto every day of the week and twice on a Sunday but that doesn't stop me being dissapointed that the fight hasn't happened yet. I say yet because just like Mar said..i'm sure it will happen. Once Cotto is worth enough, and he will be soon, then it's on.
My only concern is that Floyd waits too long and shifts the balance of the fight into Cotto's favour. Floyd's not exactly a spring chicken and he's a fighter who relies heavily on reflexes. They'll be the first thing to go..That's my only concern. Otherwise I forsee a victory for PBF.

I respect your opinion if you feel floyd can beat Cotto but I feel exactly the same as you only reversing the fighters names.

Cotto has been a beast at WW and floyd has been ducking all the top names. You just can't continue to cal yourself the best and do what he does. The fight is THE fight in boxing right now.

If you can tell me of a bigger fight than that then you are truly a boxing god.

No other fight is as significant, important or puts two fighters that good and in their primes.

I've been watching boxing a long time and I can tell you that this is not something that comes along too often when you have an opportunity to see such a good matchup and neither guy has any built in excuses like age, weight etc....

This has to happen now before it becomes insignificant.

[Unknowndonor]

I'd like to tape Floyd's mouth shut sometimes, but he is the best right now. And, is it just me, or does some of the Cotto fans here seem to be more of Floyd haters than true Cotto fans? Alot seem to not even recognize that Cotto is fighting Tony, they are just quick to jump at someone who might have a chance of beating Floyd, and they think that person is Cotto, and people want to talk about Floyd fans. I'd like to choke Floyd for not taking this fight yet, regardless of what he has done, or his earnings, I'm sick of hearing it. For the record, I wouldn't pass up the chance for the money against Oscar, but then again, I haven't already earned what Floyd has earned. I like both fighters, and I'm all for the fight, but Cotto's 0, will go, if it hasn't already.

[Althugz]

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The fight is THE fight in boxing right now.

If you can tell me of a bigger fight than that then you are truly a boxing god.

No other fight is as significant, important or puts two fighters that good and in their primes.

I've been watching boxing a long time and I can tell you that this is not something that comes along too often when you have an opportunity to see such a good matchup and neither guy has any built in excuses like age, weight etc....

This has to happen now before it becomes insignificant.

I agree with you completely there.

[p4pking]

I didn't even read the article, but Im guessing the "EXCUSE" is that Cotto isn't the highest payday out there for him. Well until they accept the hardcore boxing fan's approval as down payement on a new Bentley, It's not an excuse at all, and this entire thread is pointless and stupid. Ive said many times that I would far rather see Floyd fight Cotto than Oscar again or anyone else, and I don't know any real boxing fan who thinks differently. The problem is I'm not stupid and delluded enough to actually expect a fighter to accept far less money for an equal or greater risk, just because it will make me happy. Especially when I realize that therre are still far more people willing to shell out THEIR money to see Floyd fight Oscar than Cotto. It's just beyond pathetic that people still need clarification as to why this fight isn't happening yet.

[Spicoli]

I didn't even read the article, but Im guessing the "EXCUSE" is that Cotto isn't the highest payday out there for him. Well until they accept the hardcore boxing fan's approval as down payement on a new Bentley, It's not an excuse at all, and this entire thread is pointless and stupid. Ive said many times that I would far rather see Floyd fight Cotto than Oscar again or anyone else, and I don't know any real boxing fan who thinks differently. The problem is I'm not stupid and delluded enough to actually expect a fighter to accept far less money for an equal or greater risk, just because it will make me happy. Especially when I realize that therre are still far more people willing to shell out THEIR money to see Floyd fight Oscar than Cotto. It's just beyond pathetic that people still need clarification as to why this fight isn't happening yet.

Decent point.Oh Its fully understood how Mayweather views the Boxing world I believe. I think deep down The majority of Fans understand that Mayweather is indeed all about the Money and doing what he deems most benificial for himself....Financially and Physically....as opposed to giving the fans what they want .Its natural for Fight fans to clammer for two of the highest profile and most talented Fighters in a historically star studded Division,welters, to face off asap.

I will encourage people to not over look Cotto/Margarito as THE Welterweight battle of Note on deck....Its actually signed!Many,Many fans are sleeping and dismissing Tony as a one deminsional, face first brick layer but soon the Cotto VS. Mayweather Talk could be mute Is there any doubt that 'If' Margarito pulls it off and beats Cotto solidly that Mayweather will say "Ya see,Cotto was not ready/or he was overrated". Will he Agree to fight Margarito or fall back on the very same tired pimp-esq mantra "No one knows Margarito and He wont make Me bank".Let the Diva's have there rematch.....I want THIS fight. With the winner "earning" the right to fight King Midas Mayweather.

[Bx730NY]

I didn't even read the article, but Im guessing the "EXCUSE" is that Cotto isn't the highest payday out there for him. Well until they accept the hardcore boxing fan's approval as down payement on a new Bentley, It's not an excuse at all, and this entire thread is pointless and stupid. Ive said many times that I would far rather see Floyd fight Cotto than Oscar again or anyone else, and I don't know any real boxing fan who thinks differently. The problem is I'm not stupid and delluded enough to actually expect a fighter to accept far less money for an equal or greater risk, just because it will make me happy. Especially when I realize that therre are still far more people willing to shell out THEIR money to see Floyd fight Oscar than Cotto. It's just beyond pathetic that people still need clarification as to why this fight isn't happening yet.

I don't know how you still don't get it.

The bottom line is this, I'm not even mad at him if he wants to make money if that's what he's in it for. If he wants to stay out of the way and drop the title and let the real fighters fight, it's all gravy but he's holding a title and not doing anything to hold on to the top spot.

You're right, he doesn't have to fight Cotto if he feels he's not going to make the most money but the fans don't have to call hi the best either unless he does his talking in the ring and not outside of it.

Very simple.

[p4pking]

I didn't even read the article, but Im guessing the "EXCUSE" is that Cotto isn't the highest payday out there for him. Well until they accept the hardcore boxing fan's approval as down payement on a new Bentley, It's not an excuse at all, and this entire thread is pointless and stupid. Ive said many times that I would far rather see Floyd fight Cotto than Oscar again or anyone else, and I don't know any real boxing fan who thinks differently. The problem is I'm not stupid and delluded enough to actually expect a fighter to accept far less money for an equal or greater risk, just because it will make me happy. Especially when I realize that therre are still far more people willing to shell out THEIR money to see Floyd fight Oscar than Cotto. It's just beyond pathetic that people still need clarification as to why this fight isn't happening yet.

I don't know how you still don't get it.

The bottom line is this, I'm not even mad at him if he wants to make money if that's what he's in it for. If he wants to stay out of the way and drop the title and let the real fighters fight, it's all gravy but he's holding a title and not doing anything to hold on to the top spot.

You're right, he doesn't have to fight Cotto if he feels he's not going to make the most money but the fans don't have to call hi the best either unless he does his talking in the ring and not outside of it.

Very simple.

OK, but the entire premise of your arguement entails that Floyd should accept LESS money for a fight. Every fighter is in it for the money, to suggest otherwise would be kiddding yourself. It's just kind of peculiar.. I'm glad you get it, I really am, I just fail to see how YOU still don't understand why Floyd is fighting Oscar instead of Cotto... I mean for christs sake it's A LOT more money. I understand completely what your saying in that the fans should demand a Cotto fight, and I totally agree.. Unfortuneatly for us, Oscar De La Hoya still has a whole lot more fans, who probably don't read any boxing forums, and are still willing to pay the 50 bucks to see their man take of Mayweather.

[Majesty]

Cotto has been a beast at WW and floyd has been ducking all the top names. You just can't continue to cal yourself the best and do what he does.

Mayweather has ducked all the top names?

Alright. Name someone at 147 that Cotto has faced that was better then the same kind of person Mayweather faced at 147. And I consider Shane Mosley like the "Oscar De La Hoya" fight Floyd took if you know what I mean.

he fought Judah, Baldomir, and Hatton at 147. And despite the credit Baldomir took that title from Judah and was the undisputed champ, for Mayweather NOT to fight him would have been a travesty. So you can legitimately say that Baldomir was the best at 147(regardless of how you want to look at it) when Floyd fought him right?

So how did "mayweather" duck all the top fighters in the division when he had to go through them to get the title?

[Bx730NY]

Cotto has been a beast at WW and floyd has been ducking all the top names. You just can't continue to cal yourself the best and do what he does.

Mayweather has ducked all the top names?

Alright. Name someone at 147 that Cotto has faced that was better then the same kind of person Mayweather faced at 147. And I consider Shane Mosley like the "Oscar De La Hoya" fight Floyd took if you know what I mean.

he fought Judah, Baldomir, and Hatton at 147. And despite the credit Baldomir took that title from Judah and was the undisputed champ, for Mayweather NOT to fight him would have been a travesty. So you can legitimately say that Baldomir was the best at 147(regardless of how you want to look at it) when Floyd fought him right?

So how did "mayweather" duck all the top fighters in the division when he had to go through them to get the title?

Oh I see. So any paper champ is more dangerous than a really good top fighter out there. My bad, I didn't realize.