What the fuck is up with Obama's church?!?

[El Kabong]

Just the way it is, its sexier than real issues. Its down to the people really, the media just covers what sells.

That and people might have a REAL issue with what was going on in Obama's church.

If W was sitting in a church with a preacher talking crap about black people ONCE (much less 20 years) then he'd be in a ton of fucking trouble.

[amat]

Just the way it is, its sexier than real issues. Its down to the people really, the media just covers what sells.

That and people might have a REAL issue with what was going on in Obama's church.

If W was sitting in a church with a preacher talking crap about black people ONCE (much less 20 years) then he'd be in a ton of fucking trouble.

Ummm...no matter how you slice it, Obama's church is not a real issue. He could be from the same church as Carlos Maussa it really has no bearing.

[El Kabong]

It does if he believes in what Wright and Co. are preaching and then he's running the country he's been hating his entire life A bit counterproductive if you ask me.....a person who loves America.

[Kirkland Laing]

It does if he believes in what Wright and Co. are preaching and then he's running the country he's been hating his entire life A bit counterproductive if you ask me.....a person who loves America.

If you look a why he joined the church in the firdt place it was down to Chicago politics. He's now left the church anyway, so let's talk about something relevant, like the disaster in Iraq.

[OumaFan]

Are you sure its not that he hates America and secretly wants to become President in order to help bring America down from the inside?

[Kirkland Laing]

Are you sure its not that he hates America and secretly wants to become President in order to help bring America down from the inside?

Do you mean McCain or Obama? Or Bush ?

[OumaFan]

I think Bush did his part in bringing down the country through sheer stupidity. Who knows?

[El Kabong]

If you look a why he joined the church in the firdt place it was down to Chicago politics. He's now left the church anyway, so let's talk about something relevant, like the disaster in Iraq.

That makes it better He's willing to sit through THAT to be President?!?! As for the Chicago Politics....maybe we can have a New Tamany Hall if Obama wins.


As for Iraq it will only get worse if we leave too soon....but hey what do I know....let's just let Iran put pressure on Israel allying all the Persian nations against them and then everything will be fine, at least fine for YOU because you don't believe Israel should have that land anyway.

[amat]

It does if he believes in what Wright and Co. are preaching and then he's running the country he's been hating his entire life A bit counterproductive if you ask me.....a person who loves America.

Wasn't McCain friends with a Preacher who said the Holocaust was God's work? This is terrible, terrible. How are the Jews going to survive in a country run by McCain?

[cockey cockney]

so when is the general election (isit called that in the states?) happening?! and whats the general feel on it...i gathered Bush is as good as fucked off outta there....so who does it look like is going to take control??

[CFH]

so when is the general election (isit called that in the states?) happening?! and whats the general feel on it...i gathered Bush is as good as fucked off outta there....so who does it look like is going to take control??

Bush has already served two terms, which is unbelievable, so he is not allowed to run again. It's between McCain (Rep) and Obama (Dem).

[cockey cockney]

any indications on whose favourite atm mate? and when exactly does this take place?

[CFH]

any indications on whose favourite atm mate? and when exactly does this take place?

I believe it takes place in early Nov., but I could be wrong. I'm not sure if there is a favorite at this point. Obviously the real battle is for the independent/undecided voters, as well as those who don't normally vote, as Republicans almost always vote for the Republican and Democrats almost always vote for the Democrat. Honestly, I think they're both shit, but if I was an American, which I'm not, I would vote for Obama because McCain represents the old guard of US politics, which quite frankly disgusts me.

[cockey cockney]

any indications on whose favourite atm mate? and when exactly does this take place?

I believe it takes place in early Nov., but I could be wrong. I'm not sure if there is a favorite at this point. Obviously the real battle is for the independent/undecided voters, as well as those who don't normally vote, as Republicans almost always vote for the Republican and Democrats almost always vote for the Democrat. Honestly, I think they're both shit, but if I was an American, which I'm not, I would vote for Obama because McCain represents the old guard of US politics, which quite frankly disgusts me.

got to be honest here and say i know very little about American politics....so i cant relate to this Old Guard politics you speak of? What is meant by that? Obama supports the same football (Soccer) team as me lol....apparently got introduced to them on a trip to Britain and had a soft spot for them ever since!

[CFH]

any indications on whose favourite atm mate? and when exactly does this take place?

I believe it takes place in early Nov., but I could be wrong. I'm not sure if there is a favorite at this point. Obviously the real battle is for the independent/undecided voters, as well as those who don't normally vote, as Republicans almost always vote for the Republican and Democrats almost always vote for the Democrat. Honestly, I think they're both shit, but if I was an American, which I'm not, I would vote for Obama because McCain represents the old guard of US politics, which quite frankly disgusts me.

got to be honest here and say i know very little about American politics....so i cant relate to this Old Guard politics you speak of? What is meant by that? Obama supports the same football (Soccer) team as me lol....apparently got introduced to them on a trip to Britain and had a soft spot for them ever since!

By old guard I just meant more of the same (though it is not confined only to the Republican party). I actually don't think McCain would be that bad of a President, when compared to the Bushes or Reagan.
From what I have seen, Obama promises a great deal of change, such as health-care, a more liberal agenda, different foreign policy etc., though he'd never use the word liberal as it would be political suicide. However, so far he has been very light on the specific details. I think McCain will win, and honestly he's probably more qualified to run the country, I just like the concept of change promoted by Obama. In reality, whoever wins will likely effect very little real change in the political process.