What the fuck is up with Obama's church?!?

[El Kabong]

....look at the Middle East and thank Ike for buying into the idea that putting the Shah of Iran in power was a good idea.

[amat]

I usually refrain from it, but it's a Youtube video I have to post just because Lyle has pulled a bunch from his catalog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

[El Kabong]

I can find any number of Obama slip ups on youtube...McCain knows we have 50 states, how about that? Does Obama? McCain gave Obama an out and said "just don't vote for funding if you disagree with the war" and Obama voted FOR funding...and McCain has been several times to Iraq and has seen what's going on first hand....he might not relay the message clearly all the time but he still knows better than Obama.

Obama has had every opportunity to actually head a movement to end the war and he has not done it.

[CFH]

....look at the Middle East and thank Ike for buying into the idea that putting the Shah of Iran in power was a good idea.

This from someone who supports the Republican ethos .
Pretty much every American President from the Civil War onwards has meddled in the affairs of other sovereign nations. Not that it makes it right. So I assume by your comments about the Shah that you would rather Iran have been run by a ultra-nationalist, anti-imperialist (ie anti-American)?

[El Kabong]

This from someone who supports the Republican ethos .
Pretty much every American President from the Civil War onwards has meddled in the affairs of other sovereign nations. Not that it makes it right. So I assume by your comments about the Shah that you would rather Iran have been run by a ultra-nationalist, anti-imperialist (ie anti-American)?

I'm still hoping someone in the Middle East is a rational leader

[OumaFan]

Just because an Arab leader doesn't say or do the things you want don't mean they're irrational. I'm not by any means an expert on him but for King Hussein of Jordan to have survived as long as he did with all the problems he had to deal with, he must have been pretty rational. Even Ahmininejad (one of these days I'm gonna learn how to spell that) is just playing to the crowd, at least partly.

McCain has a boring problem. He's just flat out boring. I know that's not something that should make or break a candidacy, it should be about more important things, but it doesn't help. I just couldn't get through his whole speech last night, it was just dire. And this morning again, he's just boring. That monotone, the way he chooses his words, spit it out man and move on.

Hillary's speech last night was comic genius.

[Kirkland Laing]

All Middle Eastern leaders are rational.

[El Kabong]

All Middle Eastern leaders are rational.

....yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with that and suggest you seek mental help

[Kirkland Laing]

All Middle Eastern leaders are rational.

....yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with that and suggest you seek mental help

Which ones are irrational?