Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????

[CFH]

Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.

If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death

Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight

You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.

And I thought the Hatton fanboys were bad .

The guy is a douche bag because he thinks a guy in the top 5 p4p could beat the dude you have a massive hard-on for? I think Calzaghe - Pavlik would be a pick em fight, I'd lean towards Pavlik, but you could make a good case for Calzaghe as well. You can criticize JC's record, I've done it myself, but here's a news flash for you: Calzaghe is better than Taylor, Miranda, and Lockett - and Pavlik has plently of bums on his padded record as well.

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If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death

Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight

You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.

And I thought the Hatton fanboys were bad .

The guy is a douche bag because he thinks a guy in the top 5 p4p could beat the dude you have a massive hard-on for? I think Calzaghe - Pavlik would be a pick em fight, I'd lean towards Pavlik, but you could make a good case for Calzaghe as well. You can criticize JC's record, I've done it myself, but here's a news flash for you: Calzaghe is better than Taylor, Miranda, and Lockett - and Pavlik has plently of bums on his padded record as well.

So you would agreer that Pavlik is a Lacy type fighter who would be blown to bits by Caqlfage's great world class power slapping ability. OTFLMAO. He is a Northeast Ohioan like my self and has blown everyone up in front of him. Unlike cutting it close with Hopkins and Ried.

[CFH]

You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.

And I thought the Hatton fanboys were bad .

The guy is a douche bag because he thinks a guy in the top 5 p4p could beat the dude you have a massive hard-on for? I think Calzaghe - Pavlik would be a pick em fight, I'd lean towards Pavlik, but you could make a good case for Calzaghe as well. You can criticize JC's record, I've done it myself, but here's a news flash for you: Calzaghe is better than Taylor, Miranda, and Lockett - and Pavlik has plently of bums on his padded record as well.

So you would agreer that Pavlik is a Lacy type fighter who would be blown to bits by Caqlfage's great world class power slapping ability. OTFLMAO. He is a Northeast Ohioan like my self and has blown everyone up in front of him. Unlike cutting it close with Hopkins and Ried.

I said nothing about Pavlik being a Lacy-type fighter. In fact, I said I thought Pavlik would win if he fought JC, but calling someone a douche because he disagrees with you and thinks you favorite fighter could actually lose a fight is just stupid. Pavlik has not blown everyone up in front of him, he'd KO'd Taylor, which was impressive, but then he went life and death with him in the rematch. The fight was up for grabs in the 11th and 12th rounds, and in the eyes of most people Pavlik edged it. It was a close fight just like JC-Hopkins, regardless of the styles of the fighters. He was almost stopped in the first fight with Taylor as well, the reason he was almost stopped is immaterial. I really like Pavlik, but I liked him a lot before his fanboys started calling he name from the mountain tops, calling him Godzilla, and comparing him to Hagler and Marciano.

[killersheep]

And I thought the Hatton fanboys were bad .

The guy is a douche bag because he thinks a guy in the top 5 p4p could beat the dude you have a massive hard-on for? I think Calzaghe - Pavlik would be a pick em fight, I'd lean towards Pavlik, but you could make a good case for Calzaghe as well. You can criticize JC's record, I've done it myself, but here's a news flash for you: Calzaghe is better than Taylor, Miranda, and Lockett - and Pavlik has plently of bums on his padded record as well.

So you would agreer that Pavlik is a Lacy type fighter who would be blown to bits by Caqlfage's great world class power slapping ability. OTFLMAO. He is a Northeast Ohioan like my self and has blown everyone up in front of him. Unlike cutting it close with Hopkins and Ried.

I said nothing about Pavlik being a Lacy-type fighter. In fact, I said I thought Pavlik would win if he fought JC, but calling someone a douche because he disagrees with you and thinks you favorite fighter could actually lose a fight is just stupid. Pavlik has not blown everyone up in front of him, he'd KO'd Taylor, which was impressive, but then he went life and death with him in the rematch. The fight was up for grabs in the 11th and 12th rounds, and in the eyes of most people Pavlik edged it. It was a close fight just like JC-Hopkins, regardless of the styles of the fighters. He was almost stopped in the first fight with Taylor as well, the reason he was almost stopped is immaterial. I really like Pavlik, but I liked him a lot before his fanboys started calling he name from the mountain tops, calling him Godzilla, and comparing him to Hagler and Marciano.

I think America was in desperate need of a fighter like Pavlik though, someone that is young, in exciting fights and humble enough to back.
I'm not ready to bet the mortgage on him, but it's about time there was an American that could generate fanboys to the level of PAC and Hatton.

[CFH]

So you would agreer that Pavlik is a Lacy type fighter who would be blown to bits by Caqlfage's great world class power slapping ability. OTFLMAO. He is a Northeast Ohioan like my self and has blown everyone up in front of him. Unlike cutting it close with Hopkins and Ried.

I said nothing about Pavlik being a Lacy-type fighter. In fact, I said I thought Pavlik would win if he fought JC, but calling someone a douche because he disagrees with you and thinks you favorite fighter could actually lose a fight is just stupid. Pavlik has not blown everyone up in front of him, he'd KO'd Taylor, which was impressive, but then he went life and death with him in the rematch. The fight was up for grabs in the 11th and 12th rounds, and in the eyes of most people Pavlik edged it. It was a close fight just like JC-Hopkins, regardless of the styles of the fighters. He was almost stopped in the first fight with Taylor as well, the reason he was almost stopped is immaterial. I really like Pavlik, but I liked him a lot before his fanboys started calling he name from the mountain tops, calling him Godzilla, and comparing him to Hagler and Marciano.

I think America was in desperate need of a fighter like Pavlik though, someone that is young, in exciting fights and humble enough to back.
I'm not ready to bet the mortgage on him, but it's about time there was an American that could generate fanboys to the level of PAC and Hatton.

Fair enough, I just hate fanboys in all their forms. Drives me nuts.

[No Contest]

This to me all depends on what weight its gonna be at. The heavier the better I would think for Joe. Although Kelly may have the frame to move up with ease. I think Pavlik and Joe will trade this would be alot more entertaining than the B-Hop fight. Gotta go with Pavlik's power at this point.

[CFH]

This to me all depends on what weight its gonna be at. The heavier the better I would think for Joe. Although Kelly may have the frame to move up with ease. I think Pavlik and Joe will trade this would be alot more entertaining than the B-Hop fight. Gotta go with Pavlik's power at this point.

I agree. If the extra weight slows Pavlik down, it's going to be a big benefit for JC. I thought Pavlik was much less effective at 166 against Taylor, he looked slower and more sloppy, but that probably has a lot more to do with the adjustments that Taylor made than the weight. I think Pavlik wins, but if JC can exploit Pavlik's plodding, straight ahead nature it could get interesting. One big problem for JC is that Pavlik is very good at cutting off the ring.