Abraham headed to Miami!

[JohnnyKickAss]

Ok when I was checking BoxRec, I thought it was a catch weight too but it is listed as a title fight.

WTF!?

I think Edison is coming back down to 160 :

I heard originally that it was at a catchweight of 166... Would be very shocked to hear it was at 160 for the belt, didn't think Miranda felt strong at the weight anymore... Maybe it was just an excuse after he lost to Pavlik?

This is also from fightnews:

Q&A: Arthur Abraham!

The weight limit will be 166 pounds which means you do not have to watch your weight that carefully this time out. Is that good for you?
"Definitely. I feel even stronger. Making weight can be a real torture but I do not have to do it this time.”




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[Mar]

Win or loose abraham is getting some respect here. Taking on miranda right now for his first fight for the U.S. fans i don't think is a great idea. I think miranda has dreamed about this re-match since the first night after the loss. Abraham is not playing it safe that for sure.

[Master]

I agree with Legion and Mar, never thought he would come to the US and fight at the higher weight. Whilst I may be supporting Miranda I have to respect Abraham's and would not mind if he won.

[Cortez The Killer]

I've never seen the first fight, but got the impression that Abraham wanted to quit, his corner didn't let him, and Miranda was tearing him up pretty bad both legally and illegally.

Got the impression Germany was protecting Abraham...wasnt Miranda docked 5-6 points that fight?

Anyone seen it in it's entirety?

I would expect Miranda to tear Abraham a new one if the first fight even generally how I read it did.

But things have changed since then, Abraham fought better competition including that brutal KO of Gevor and Miranda was dismantled by Pavlik and said he felt drained and weak at 160.

But Abraham must be feeling confident to come to the US against a man that might have rightfully beat him (at least beat him up).

Going to predict that Abraham takes this UD...maybe even late KO. But Miranda is always dangerous and will be out for blood so who knows..

[Cortez The Killer]

Miranda has home field advantage. He has fought his past two fights at the Seminole Hard Rock in Florida and KTFO both of his opponents there. Going to be a tough night for Abraham win or lose.

[leftylee]

Big ups to AA for going to the US to fight Miranda. I'm picking AA on Points.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

If Abraham can keep from getting anything broken, he'll ko Miranda. Both fighters are warriors though. I like both.

[LEGION]

Anyone see a Williams/Quintana debacle for this rematch? AA will feel utterly ridiculous if he gets blasted in round one I really don't know who to pick; of course I never do so that's nothing new

[CFH]

I've never seen the first fight, but got the impression that Abraham wanted to quit, his corner didn't let him, and Miranda was tearing him up pretty bad both legally and illegally.

Got the impression Germany was protecting Abraham...wasnt Miranda docked 5-6 points that fight?

Anyone seen it in it's entirety?

I would expect Miranda to tear Abraham a new one if the first fight even generally how I read it did.

But things have changed since then, Abraham fought better competition including that brutal KO of Gevor and Miranda was dismantled by Pavlik and said he felt drained and weak at 160.

But Abraham must be feeling confident to come to the US against a man that might have rightfully beat him (at least beat him up).

Going to predict that Abraham takes this UD...maybe even late KO. But Miranda is always dangerous and will be out for blood so who knows..

You should check out the fight, it was a barn-burner. I though Abraham actually got the better of Miranda, and had it not been for the broken jaw (which Miranda exasperated by repeatedly butting Abraham) I think Miranda would've got stopped. Abraham rocked him several times and outboxed him for much of the fight. I believe Miranda was docked 5 points, he deserved some deductions, but 5 point was complete bullshit (shouldn't someone be DQ'd if you have to take that many points anyways?). However, ever without the point deductions it would have been at worse a majority draw (according to an article I have read) or a majority decision for Abraham (according to boxrec). It probably should have been a TKO for Miranda though, considering he broke Abraham's jaw with a punch I believe.

[Cortez The Killer]

I've never seen the first fight, but got the impression that Abraham wanted to quit, his corner didn't let him, and Miranda was tearing him up pretty bad both legally and illegally.

Got the impression Germany was protecting Abraham...wasnt Miranda docked 5-6 points that fight?

Anyone seen it in it's entirety?

I would expect Miranda to tear Abraham a new one if the first fight even generally how I read it did.

But things have changed since then, Abraham fought better competition including that brutal KO of Gevor and Miranda was dismantled by Pavlik and said he felt drained and weak at 160.

But Abraham must be feeling confident to come to the US against a man that might have rightfully beat him (at least beat him up).

Going to predict that Abraham takes this UD...maybe even late KO. But Miranda is always dangerous and will be out for blood so who knows..

You should check out the fight, it was a barn-burner. I though Abraham actually got the better of Miranda, and had it not been for the broken jaw (which Miranda exasperated by repeatedly butting Abraham) I think Miranda would've got stopped. Abraham rocked him several times and outboxed him for much of the fight. I believe Miranda was docked 5 points, he deserved some deductions, but 5 point was complete bullshit (shouldn't someone be DQ'd if you have to take that many points anyways?). However, ever without the point deductions it would have been at worse a majority draw (according to an article I have read) or a majority decision for Abraham (according to boxrec). It probably should have been a TKO for Miranda though, considering he broke Abraham's jaw with a punch I believe.

I had that completely wrong, Abraham gave a much better showing than I thought. I just finished watching the "runde 1" version. I read showtime aired this fight a few weeks back with american commentary, wish I couldve found that.

That was a barn burner indeed! Glad I watched it in it's entirety makes me excited about this rematch. There will be some genuine dislike between both of these guys.

The only question now is if Abraham's smurf hat made the transatlantic trip with him

I'll put my chips in for Abraham late KO

[jangeorg]

I've never seen the first fight, but got the impression that Abraham wanted to quit, his corner didn't let him, and Miranda was tearing him up pretty bad both legally and illegally.

Got the impression Germany was protecting Abraham...wasnt Miranda docked 5-6 points that fight?

Anyone seen it in it's entirety?

I would expect Miranda to tear Abraham a new one if the first fight even generally how I read it did.

But things have changed since then, Abraham fought better competition including that brutal KO of Gevor and Miranda was dismantled by Pavlik and said he felt drained and weak at 160.

But Abraham must be feeling confident to come to the US against a man that might have rightfully beat him (at least beat him up).

Going to predict that Abraham takes this UD...maybe even late KO. But Miranda is always dangerous and will be out for blood so who knows..

You should check out the fight, it was a barn-burner. I though Abraham actually got the better of Miranda, and had it not been for the broken jaw (which Miranda exasperated by repeatedly butting Abraham) I think Miranda would've got stopped. Abraham rocked him several times and outboxed him for much of the fight. I believe Miranda was docked 5 points, he deserved some deductions, but 5 point was complete bullshit (shouldn't someone be DQ'd if you have to take that many points anyways?). However, ever without the point deductions it would have been at worse a majority draw (according to an article I have read) or a majority decision for Abraham (according to boxrec). It probably should have been a TKO for Miranda though, considering he broke Abraham's jaw with a punch I believe.

I had that completely wrong, Abraham gave a much better showing than I thought. I just finished watching the "runde 1" version. I read showtime aired this fight a few weeks back with american commentary, wish I couldve found that.

That was a barn burner indeed! Glad I watched it in it's entirety makes me excited about this rematch. There will be some genuine dislike between both of these guys.

The only question now is if Abraham's smurf hat made the transatlantic trip with him

I'll put my chips in for Abraham late KO

Maybe the people that think Miranda will be a force,should watch this video :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qXjnydboXo4





And notice that he was still stunned with single punches several times by a fighter with a broken jaw who had lost an incredible amount of blood.