Abraham headed to Miami!

[CFH]

I've never seen the first fight, but got the impression that Abraham wanted to quit, his corner didn't let him, and Miranda was tearing him up pretty bad both legally and illegally.

Got the impression Germany was protecting Abraham...wasnt Miranda docked 5-6 points that fight?

Anyone seen it in it's entirety?

I would expect Miranda to tear Abraham a new one if the first fight even generally how I read it did.

But things have changed since then, Abraham fought better competition including that brutal KO of Gevor and Miranda was dismantled by Pavlik and said he felt drained and weak at 160.

But Abraham must be feeling confident to come to the US against a man that might have rightfully beat him (at least beat him up).

Going to predict that Abraham takes this UD...maybe even late KO. But Miranda is always dangerous and will be out for blood so who knows..

You should check out the fight, it was a barn-burner. I though Abraham actually got the better of Miranda, and had it not been for the broken jaw (which Miranda exasperated by repeatedly butting Abraham) I think Miranda would've got stopped. Abraham rocked him several times and outboxed him for much of the fight. I believe Miranda was docked 5 points, he deserved some deductions, but 5 point was complete bullshit (shouldn't someone be DQ'd if you have to take that many points anyways?). However, ever without the point deductions it would have been at worse a majority draw (according to an article I have read) or a majority decision for Abraham (according to boxrec). It probably should have been a TKO for Miranda though, considering he broke Abraham's jaw with a punch I believe.

[Cortez The Killer]

I've never seen the first fight, but got the impression that Abraham wanted to quit, his corner didn't let him, and Miranda was tearing him up pretty bad both legally and illegally.

Got the impression Germany was protecting Abraham...wasnt Miranda docked 5-6 points that fight?

Anyone seen it in it's entirety?

I would expect Miranda to tear Abraham a new one if the first fight even generally how I read it did.

But things have changed since then, Abraham fought better competition including that brutal KO of Gevor and Miranda was dismantled by Pavlik and said he felt drained and weak at 160.

But Abraham must be feeling confident to come to the US against a man that might have rightfully beat him (at least beat him up).

Going to predict that Abraham takes this UD...maybe even late KO. But Miranda is always dangerous and will be out for blood so who knows..

You should check out the fight, it was a barn-burner. I though Abraham actually got the better of Miranda, and had it not been for the broken jaw (which Miranda exasperated by repeatedly butting Abraham) I think Miranda would've got stopped. Abraham rocked him several times and outboxed him for much of the fight. I believe Miranda was docked 5 points, he deserved some deductions, but 5 point was complete bullshit (shouldn't someone be DQ'd if you have to take that many points anyways?). However, ever without the point deductions it would have been at worse a majority draw (according to an article I have read) or a majority decision for Abraham (according to boxrec). It probably should have been a TKO for Miranda though, considering he broke Abraham's jaw with a punch I believe.

I had that completely wrong, Abraham gave a much better showing than I thought. I just finished watching the "runde 1" version. I read showtime aired this fight a few weeks back with american commentary, wish I couldve found that.

That was a barn burner indeed! Glad I watched it in it's entirety makes me excited about this rematch. There will be some genuine dislike between both of these guys.

The only question now is if Abraham's smurf hat made the transatlantic trip with him

I'll put my chips in for Abraham late KO

[jangeorg]

I've never seen the first fight, but got the impression that Abraham wanted to quit, his corner didn't let him, and Miranda was tearing him up pretty bad both legally and illegally.

Got the impression Germany was protecting Abraham...wasnt Miranda docked 5-6 points that fight?

Anyone seen it in it's entirety?

I would expect Miranda to tear Abraham a new one if the first fight even generally how I read it did.

But things have changed since then, Abraham fought better competition including that brutal KO of Gevor and Miranda was dismantled by Pavlik and said he felt drained and weak at 160.

But Abraham must be feeling confident to come to the US against a man that might have rightfully beat him (at least beat him up).

Going to predict that Abraham takes this UD...maybe even late KO. But Miranda is always dangerous and will be out for blood so who knows..

You should check out the fight, it was a barn-burner. I though Abraham actually got the better of Miranda, and had it not been for the broken jaw (which Miranda exasperated by repeatedly butting Abraham) I think Miranda would've got stopped. Abraham rocked him several times and outboxed him for much of the fight. I believe Miranda was docked 5 points, he deserved some deductions, but 5 point was complete bullshit (shouldn't someone be DQ'd if you have to take that many points anyways?). However, ever without the point deductions it would have been at worse a majority draw (according to an article I have read) or a majority decision for Abraham (according to boxrec). It probably should have been a TKO for Miranda though, considering he broke Abraham's jaw with a punch I believe.

I had that completely wrong, Abraham gave a much better showing than I thought. I just finished watching the "runde 1" version. I read showtime aired this fight a few weeks back with american commentary, wish I couldve found that.

That was a barn burner indeed! Glad I watched it in it's entirety makes me excited about this rematch. There will be some genuine dislike between both of these guys.

The only question now is if Abraham's smurf hat made the transatlantic trip with him

I'll put my chips in for Abraham late KO

Maybe the people that think Miranda will be a force,should watch this video :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qXjnydboXo4





And notice that he was still stunned with single punches several times by a fighter with a broken jaw who had lost an incredible amount of blood.

[jangeorg]

And notice that he was still stunned with single punches several times by a fighter with a broken jaw who had lost an incredible amount of blood.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Since the first fight Miranda has been in with the better fighters. Abraham has not fought anyone of significance.
It's not unreasonable to presume Miranda may have developed more.

[JohnnyKickAss]

Since the first fight Miranda has been in with the better fighters. Abraham has not fought anyone of significance.
It's not unreasonable to presume Miranda may have developed more.

I don't know Demers is doing pretty well and AA overpowered him easily...Gevor and Ayala brought their a game and still never had a real chance...Maybe Miranda developed,but so did AA...

[donnydarkoIRL]

Since the first fight Miranda has been in with the better fighters. Abraham has not fought anyone of significance.
It's not unreasonable to presume Miranda may have developed more.

I don't know Demers is doing pretty well and AA overpowered him easily...Gevor and Ayala brought their a game and still never had a real chance...Maybe Miranda developed,but so did AA...

Abraham is a lot better technically and after expiereinceing the first fight will probably box more, so Miranda better hope he can bring something other than brute force

[Pantera]

I got my own video to show you, but it wont be released until June 22.