Do they deserve to be in the Hall or not?

[SweetPea]

I wouldn't put any of those guys in that article in the Hall of Fame yet. When it comes to HOFs in any sport, I think that the tougher the standards are, the better the HOF is and the more an induction means.

[HattonTheHammer]

I wouldn't put any of those guys in that article in the Hall of Fame yet. When it comes to HOFs in any sport, I think that the tougher the standards are, the better the HOF is and the more an induction means.

Exactly

when did the HOF become a recognition that any half decent world champion could have an argument to be in??

[C.J.Rock]

When cretins like Jose Suliaman, Don King & Bob Arum are inducted then the credibilty of the HOF suffers . Who is next Bob Lee & Panama Lewis ??

[p4pking]

When cretins like Jose Suliaman, Don King & Bob Arum are inducted then the credibilty of the HOF suffers . Who is next Bob Lee & Panama Lewis ??

Suliman I can probably agree with you on, though I don't know enough about his career... But Dong King and Bob Arum absolutely belong in the Hof based on it's standards. I would be all for it if they didn't induct people who weren't either fighters or trainers, who didn't personally compete. However since that's not the case, King and Arum have probably done more for the sport of boxing than any fighter by a long way. Of course they have screwed their share of people over, that comes with the territory... But Don King's first promotion was the rumble in the jungle, and since then has put together so many huge events and been probably the most recognizable face in the sport. Bob Arum even today is doing great things for the sport in many ways, he's putting his best talent in the fights people really want to see currently. I don't see how you can exclude guys like that based on their impact on the sport. Which is the same reason I'm pretty sure Gatti will get in, although so many technically superior fighters will not.

[Spicoli]

Seem's as though it has become so watered down over the years as far as guidelines and what exactley merits and defines a Hall of famer...Titles obtained/won & defended...Quality of Opposition faced and defeated as well as skill set...Over all contribution to the sport and effects on it's past,present & future I have Never looked into the official guidelines given by the H.O.F??

[CutMeMick]

If Barrys in then the rest can just walk right in and make themselves feel at home.

[Spicoli]

If Barrys in then the rest can just walk right in and make themselves feel at home.

...True,and they will.I wish I was so concise ...

[CutMeMick]

As for the article:

Casa - yes
Hatton - On the fence still
Gerry - On the fence still
Tarver - no
Ivan - On the fence still


I agree with Raskin on most thing here. Especially what he says about Gerry & Ivan.

Something to think about here about the Hall of Fame.
Here are some names of fighters who SHOULD be hall of fame but have not yet been inducted. Now IMO these fighters are head & shoulders above Gerry and they happen to be Asian.

I'll start of with some of Gerrys country men who are NOT in the Hall.
Ceferino Garcia & Luisito Espinoza.

Then you've got the rest of Asians who are still waiting in line themselves;
Jung Koo Chang, Chong Pal Park, Chartchai Chionoi, Ki Soo Kim, Myung Woo Yuh, Yoko Gushiken, Sot Chitalada, Hiroshi Kobayashi, Masao Ohba, Yoshio Shirai, Pone Kingpetch, Jiro Watanabe....

I can go on and on, my point here is that for Gerry to be in the Hall is possible but just look at that list I just put together of great Asian fighters who are NOT in yet.

I mean Masamori Tokuyama beat Gerry twice (I know one of the fights was close) but I would give Masamori more of a chance at Hall then Gerry now.

[donnydarkoIRL]

If Barrys in then the rest can just walk right in and make themselves feel at home.

Mick I've posted several times on this, I'll just drop a link

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ame-bound.html


http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...about-him.html

The HOF is not just for boxing achievements, but ones effect on the boxing worl, its fans and his representation of the sport.

[OumaFan]

If Barrys in then the rest can just walk right in and make themselves feel at home.

When does that stop though? I mean it is fair to draw the line, say we made a mistake and start raising the standards again?

[amat]

There's little doubt in my mind that Casamayor is a hall of famer, one of the most successful Cubans of all time, I really don't think there is an argument against there. They are generous as to who they let in, so Casamayor I really don't see how you don't let him in. I think he's one of the greats of the generation.