this dude wants to train me

[Gemandad]

Bullshit
He's young enough he can be worked out,and its a hell of alot more then "a couple of hundred bucks" and even if it was just that,thats a full tank of oil for the winter.
Appalachia is not exactly living the high life. And on top of that,hell if I had him in my stable I could sort him out pretty quickly. His hand speed isnt bad,and he's got heart to beat the band

Ha Ha who are you a magician, good hand speed mmm, do you know what you are talking about There is no way he is getting more than $1000 bucks a fight, think working at MCdonalds would pay more per month. Stop encouraging this idiot making a fool of himself

Are you a mouth breathing drooler?
1000$ down there is a small freaking fortune
His punches loop to much,and he does need work,but that can be worked with,and fixed

Am I a what?? Oh I get it throwing insults now, Hey put your money where your mouth is get this guy and board, am willing to bet he will get his ass kicked again and again

[Trainer Monkey]

Ha Ha who are you a magician, good hand speed mmm, do you know what you are talking about There is no way he is getting more than $1000 bucks a fight, think working at MCdonalds would pay more per month. Stop encouraging this idiot making a fool of himself

Are you a mouth breathing drooler?
1000$ down there is a small freaking fortune
His punches loop to much,and he does need work,but that can be worked with,and fixed

Am I a what?? Oh I get it throwing insults now, Hey put your money where your mouth is get this guy and board, am willing to bet he will get his ass kicked again and again

Apparantly you are a mouth breather,he has a trainer,and its bad form to swoop another guys boxer. Im sure as hell not going to do it. He's got a local guy who's been in the ring with some big names, Im not going to burn bridges and make him travel up here to boot.
I dont mind giving him advice,but I wont do that.
By the by,whats your record?

[Gemandad]

Are you a mouth breathing drooler?
1000$ down there is a small freaking fortune
His punches loop to much,and he does need work,but that can be worked with,and fixed

Am I a what?? Oh I get it throwing insults now, Hey put your money where your mouth is get this guy and board, am willing to bet he will get his ass kicked again and again

Apparantly you are a mouth breather,he has a trainer,and its bad form to swoop another guys boxer. Im sure as hell not going to do it. He's got a local guy who's been in the ring with some big names, Im not going to burn bridges and make him travel up here to boot.
I dont mind giving him advice,but I wont do that.
By the by,whats your record?

Pretty sure he said he didn't have a trainer and was asking if he should take on this old journeyman as his trainer, so that is crap, my record is 96-8 as an amateur and am now 4-0 as a pro, please tell me what relevance this has on talking on a forum. What's your record

[Trainer Monkey]

Am I a what?? Oh I get it throwing insults now, Hey put your money where your mouth is get this guy and board, am willing to bet he will get his ass kicked again and again

Apparantly you are a mouth breather,he has a trainer,and its bad form to swoop another guys boxer. Im sure as hell not going to do it. He's got a local guy who's been in the ring with some big names, Im not going to burn bridges and make him travel up here to boot.
I dont mind giving him advice,but I wont do that.
By the by,whats your record?

Pretty sure he said he didn't have a trainer and was asking if he should take on this old journeyman as his trainer, so that is crap, my record is 96-8 as an amateur and am now 4-0 as a pro, please tell me what relevance this has on talking on a forum. What's your record

A) Give me your name so I can check
B) I did Martial Arts(not MMA) I can show you some very pretty medals and trophies. Though I would point out,I never finished out of the medals.
C) Please give me your name,Id love to book you

[Gemandad]

Thanks, but I have just signed a deal, I would am not on here for self promotion, just a bit of banter so you will have to take my word for it I'm afraid. Congrats on the medals but I am just voicing my opinion, thanks.

[Trainer Monkey]

Thanks, but I have just signed a deal, I would am not on here for self promotion, just a bit of banter so you will have to take my word for it I'm afraid. Congrats on the medals but I am just voicing my opinion, thanks.

4 pro fights,and you signed a deal?
You realize you just got screwed?
Exclusivity deals are allways an f job,Ive got fighters who cant even fight in this state because of those deals
Well,it cant be helped now,your sig is on the contract

[Gemandad]

Thanks, but I have just signed a deal, I would am not on here for self promotion, just a bit of banter so you will have to take my word for it I'm afraid. Congrats on the medals but I am just voicing my opinion, thanks.

4 pro fights,and you signed a deal?
You realize you just got screwed?
Exclusivity deals are allways an f job,Ive got fighters who cant even fight in this state because of those deals
Well,it cant be helped now,your sig is on the contract

Thanks for worrying but it is a decent deal which has been reviewed by my manager and trainer first, think I will be ok as long I don't get my ass kicked too early into it.

[Youngblood]

Thanks, but I have just signed a deal, I would am not on here for self promotion, just a bit of banter so you will have to take my word for it I'm afraid. Congrats on the medals but I am just voicing my opinion, thanks.

Looked, most of us here got off the Andrew bashing bandwagon a long time ago, and got on the helping a person out express. One way or another Andrew will be fighting, so we would all like him to be fighting better prepared physically trained properly and with better technique.

It really is that simple. No one here is talking about turning him into the next p4p champ.

If you start to learn a bit more about Andrew and are any sort of 1/2 ass decent human being, you may understand better. I too bashed him for a while, but have grown rather fond of him lately...So I understand your comments, but also if you read my post up on the previous page, it may give you some insight into why I and some others feel as we do.

[Gemandad]

I do understand and a lot of people seemed to come around to that idea, I just think if you are solely in boxing to make money, you are going to get hurt, also with his record and the amount of times he has been knocked out he will start to struggle to get bouts, and then the money will dry up anyway. When people look to journeymen they are looking for tough guys that will give their prospects a few rounds. Your initial impression is that this guy was crap, he is, I know he has kids but there are better ways to earn money than being knockout every 3 months, he also is getting medical bans which don't allow him to fight regularly, thats how journeymen make there money and it is a noble trade but they fight week in week out cause they don't get stopped. You guys have to stop patting this guy on the back - when you are really thinking the same as I am... Please if i am wrong let me know, each to their own but I don't know what the disability befit is over there but that will soon become his only income. I can understand guys chasing their dreams but you have to draw the line somewhere, surely 13 losses from 15, a DQ win and a win over a guy who is 0-2, maybe it's time to consider other options.