If these guys fought prime 4 prime on there best night who would have most Wins?

[Markusdarkus]

Me too, but that was 1991 and Tyson was already done by then

Tyson died when he left Rooney and Cayton tbh.

He still had good displays against Tubbs, Bruno and Ruddock but he was a shell. Wasnt moving his head and forgot his jab and worst of all was drinking heavy not training.

I still say if Rooney had been training Mike for the Douglas fight, Buster would not have gone 6rds.

Tyson was always mentally weak regardless of what trainer he had or etc, i still don't get why people think Tyson is some sort of unbeatable fighting machine, i see him struggle against Tony Tucker and Tucker broke his hand after the 4th round, and i see him struggle with Tillis as well, what they both had in common was that they were both tall and good movers. I mean people base Tyson off two performances against Berbick, Spinks, which were both combined only 3 rounds. Do i see Tyson as a very good fighter ?? yes but i always thought he was very beatable you could time his head movement coming in he would bob and weave 3 times then start throwing punches, but because fighters were so scared of him they never went in with any gameplan and if they did it went out of the window as soon as the first bell rung.

I look at Tyson 86-89 and find it really hard to find many heavyweights that would live with him left alone compete.

The only guys i see beating him are Holmes and Ali.

Thats just my opinion i was around in Tysons hayday he was a great fighter no doubt.

[CFH]

Lewis

Bowe

Holyfield/Tyson






Wlad

[El Kabong]

It's not really fair to throw Wlad in there just yet as he's currently in his prime, that being said I think he'd surprise a few of those guys and beat them....Riddick Bowe and Holyfield would have been the best options for him to beat. A Prime Tyson had a hell of a chin and power in both hands and was really quick but Wlad's jab could pose big problems to Iron Mike. Lewis is a guy he tries to emulate and it would be a chess match....Wlad had the better jab and Lewis had the better killer instinct.

I'd say Lewis would come out on top more often than anyone else

[frozensolid_702]

Prime for prime??


1. Mike Tyson - I'm talking about 80's Tyson...... not 90's post prison Tyson. The loss of Cus D'Amato (who was basiclly Tyson's Dad and was without a doubt his mentor) absolutely destroyed "Iron," Mike.

2. Riddick Bowe - Again.... we're talking about fighters when they were at their absolute peak. Riddick Bowe on his "A," game was damn near unbeatable.

3. Wladmir Klitchko - He was very flawed a while back, but Manny polished out those flaws and turned Klitchko into a monster. When you have a guy that big that has been blessed with so many physical attributes, and turn him into one of the most technically sound heavyweights in ages..... then you have an all time great.

4. Lennox Lewis - Another guy that was physically gifted but flawed......... until Manny got to him

5. Evander Holyfield - Great fighter until he moved to heavyweight. Then when he hit heavyweight, he was just a bigger version of Arturo Gatti. Very exciting because his defensive plan was to just let guys punch him in the face, but ultimately..... he won a few big fights at HW but lost to far too many lackluster opponents.

[Master]

Tyson beats them but may loose to Holyfield and Lewis in the second fight
Lewis may beat Tyson once but would loose to Holyfield at least once
Bowe gets beat by the above butbeats the ones below at least once
Holyfield was inconsistent but would give everyone a hard fight.
Wlad not in the same league

[HattonTheHammer]

Prime for prime??


1. Mike Tyson - I'm talking about 80's Tyson...... not 90's post prison Tyson. The loss of Cus D'Amato (who was basiclly Tyson's Dad and was without a doubt his mentor) absolutely destroyed "Iron," Mike.

2. Riddick Bowe - Again.... we're talking about fighters when they were at their absolute peak. Riddick Bowe on his "A," game was damn near unbeatable.

3. Wladmir Klitchko - He was very flawed a while back, but Manny polished out those flaws and turned Klitchko into a monster. When you have a guy that big that has been blessed with so many physical attributes, and turn him into one of the most technically sound heavyweights in ages..... then you have an all time great.

4. Lennox Lewis - Another guy that was physically gifted but flawed......... until Manny got to him

5. Evander Holyfield - Great fighter until he moved to heavyweight. Then when he hit heavyweight, he was just a bigger version of Arturo Gatti. Very exciting because his defensive plan was to just let guys punch him in the face, but ultimately..... he won a few big fights at HW but lost to far too many lackluster opponents.

I agree

if your going for consistency then lewis/holyfield will always get the vote. But tyson on his absoloute game was a vicious monster that probably would of had the likes of ali/louis/frazier etc eating canvas.

You cant train to get that kind of power in your shots, its just a natural gift that fighters like tyson/jones jr etc are born with!

[Slowmotion426]

Wlad would annihilate the others easily.

[Master]

Wlad would annihilate the others easily.

Yes just like Saunders did to him

[Slowmotion426]

Wlad would annihilate the others easily.

Yes just like Saunders did to him

The only Heavyweight Champ who didn't eventually get destroyed by someone else is Rocky Marciano.

[Spicoli]

Prime for prime??


1. Mike Tyson - I'm talking about 80's Tyson...... not 90's post prison Tyson. The loss of Cus D'Amato (who was basiclly Tyson's Dad and was without a doubt his mentor) absolutely destroyed "Iron," Mike.

2. Riddick Bowe - Again.... we're talking about fighters when they were at their absolute peak. Riddick Bowe on his "A," game was damn near unbeatable.

3. Wladmir Klitchko - He was very flawed a while back, but Manny polished out those flaws and turned Klitchko into a monster. When you have a guy that big that has been blessed with so many physical attributes, and turn him into one of the most technically sound heavyweights in ages..... then you have an all time great.

4. Lennox Lewis - Another guy that was physically gifted but flawed......... until Manny got to him

5. Evander Holyfield - Great fighter until he moved to heavyweight. Then when he hit heavyweight, he was just a bigger version of Arturo Gatti. Very exciting because his defensive plan was to just let guys punch him in the face, but ultimately..... he won a few big fights at HW but lost to far too many lackluster opponents.

Umm,wow .And exactly how many times does Gattis name come up when the topic of top ten all time Jr.Light/Lightweights surface... Holyfield backseated his boxing mind for pride at times but he was far more than a face first catcher but definatly has hung around far to long.Byrd,Donald & Toney were hard fights to watch....but Foreman,Tyson,Holmes,Lewis are hall of famers.

[JT Rock]

Holy could of beat any of those guys in there prime
Lewis & Tyson tied in my opinion for ability in their primes
Bowe
Wlad dosent have a shot in hell

[THE THIRD MAN]

The Tyson from 1986-88 beats the hell out of all of them!

[Tysonbruno]

Tyson would come out on top prime for prime

[Pugilistic]

1. Lewis
2. Bowe
3. Holyfield
4. Tyson
5. Klitschko

[johnmaff36]

im forever hearing about tyson in his prime and the hard reality is that MT always had trouble against big men who could jab and move. Douglas beat him fair and square after bein put on the broad of his back. If MT wasnt fit/having problems/drinking/whoring then tough s**t. Thats his own fault. One of Douglas parents had just died so he would have had his problems too, or does MT have the copyright.
anyhow,
1. Lewis. greatly underated and in time will be appreciated. history
will be kind to him.Fought everyone and anyone.
2.Holyfield. great heart,boxing ability and will to win
3.Tyson. no longevity so therefore not great. Exciting yes, explosive yes
Up with the greats? puur-lease. also paid 'step aside' money.
4.Bowe. Nothing special. relinquised title rather than fight lewis. self explanitory.
5.Klitschko. anti-Lewis people always say he was beating Lewis.Less than mid-rounds stoppage and 60stitches says different