If these guys fought prime 4 prime on there best night who would have most Wins?

[El Kabong]

Wladimir is currently in his prime and yeah his loss to Sanders is a big issue to many folks but look his career was damn near over after the losses to Sanders and Brewster and he took on the toughest fighter in the division and beat the crap out of him and Sam Peter hasn't been the same since that loss.


Wlad has the ability to complete his game and be a great fighter but throwing him in with names like Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, and Mike Tyson is a bit premature at this point in time....Wlad is only 31 years old and you have to figure he's got 10 or so big time fights left in him at the pace of 2 a year...I want to see #1 How he does in those fights and #2 Who he fights before I try and say if he beats anyone on that list. It's top company to be mentioned with though but I think Wlad's lack of a rival really hurts him....Chris Byrd and Lamon Brewster are about the closest things he's had to rivals.

I figure Lennox Lewis is the toughest on the list but also the must vulnerable as sometimes he wasn't able to get up for fights....sometimes he won anyway like vs Bruno but sometimes he got hammered like vs Rahman.

Riddick Bowe is the most flawed fighter...he would give up on his defense and give up his height and reach at points during a fight which would be devistating vs any of these guys in their primes.

Tyson was the weakest mentally and we saw what Holyfield could do to him...I don't see him doing well vs any of these guys in his prime.

1. Lewis
2. Holyfield
3. Bowe
4. Tyson
5. Wlad

[frozensolid_702]

Wladimir is currently in his prime and yeah his loss to Sanders is a big issue to many folks but look his career was damn near over after the losses to Sanders and Brewster and he took on the toughest fighter in the division and beat the crap out of him and Sam Peter hasn't been the same since that loss.


Wlad has the ability to complete his game and be a great fighter but throwing him in with names like Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, and Mike Tyson is a bit premature at this point in time....Wlad is only 31 years old and you have to figure he's got 10 or so big time fights left in him at the pace of 2 a year...I want to see #1 How he does in those fights and #2 Who he fights before I try and say if he beats anyone on that list. It's top company to be mentioned with though but I think Wlad's lack of a rival really hurts him....Chris Byrd and Lamon Brewster are about the closest things he's had to rivals.

I figure Lennox Lewis is the toughest on the list but also the must vulnerable as sometimes he wasn't able to get up for fights....sometimes he won anyway like vs Bruno but sometimes he got hammered like vs Rahman.

Riddick Bowe is the most flawed fighter...he would give up on his defense and give up his height and reach at points during a fight which would be devistating vs any of these guys in their primes.

Tyson was the weakest mentally and we saw what Holyfield could do to him...I don't see him doing well vs any of these guys in his prime.

1. Lewis
2. Holyfield
3. Bowe
4. Tyson
5. Wlad

How can anybody have Holyfield above Bowe?? They already fought when they were at their absolute best (Bowe vs. Holyfield 1) and Bowe beat him.

Bowe vs. Holyfield 2 - Bowe came in fat and looked like crap. Holyfield edged out a close, controversial decision.

Bowe vs. Holyfield 3 - Anybody who saw this fight knows that this wasn't Holyfield at his best. Bowe wins by TKO.

[El Kabong]

Well I put them in that order because on any day of the week Holyfield beats Tyson and at least gives Lewis and Bowe a good run for their money.

Riddick Bowe was a great fighter but only for an extremely short period of time and he was still flawed during those prime fights....Lewis whips him, Tyson may get to him, and Holyfield could hang with him he was by no means dominated in the first 2 fights.

Tyson was dangerous but Lewis could beat him, Holyfield dominated him, and Bowe had the style to beat him.

So Prime Lewis could have beat everyone on that list....Holyfield could beat all the guys on that list but DID lose to Bowe but he also beat Tyson twice....Bowe couldn't beat Lewis and did also lose to Holyfield and may have a close fight with Tyson but I could still see him losing that.

[rjj tszyu]

Well I put them in that order because on any day of the week Holyfield beats Tyson and at least gives Lewis and Bowe a good run for their money.

Riddick Bowe was a great fighter but only for an extremely short period of time and he was still flawed during those prime fights....Lewis whips him, Tyson may get to him, and Holyfield could hang with him he was by no means dominated in the first 2 fights.

Tyson was dangerous but Lewis could beat him, Holyfield dominated him, and Bowe had the style to beat him.

So Prime Lewis could have beat everyone on that list....Holyfield could beat all the guys on that list but DID lose to Bowe but he also beat Tyson twice....Bowe couldn't beat Lewis and did also lose to Holyfield and may have a close fight with Tyson but I could still see him losing that.

Good answer. Very similar order to mine except I had Holyfield top and Lewis second!

[JonesJrMayweather]

Wladimir is currently in his prime and yeah his loss to Sanders is a big issue to many folks but look his career was damn near over after the losses to Sanders and Brewster and he took on the toughest fighter in the division and beat the crap out of him and Sam Peter hasn't been the same since that loss.


Wlad has the ability to complete his game and be a great fighter but throwing him in with names like Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, and Mike Tyson is a bit premature at this point in time....Wlad is only 31 years old and you have to figure he's got 10 or so big time fights left in him at the pace of 2 a year...I want to see #1 How he does in those fights and #2 Who he fights before I try and say if he beats anyone on that list. It's top company to be mentioned with though but I think Wlad's lack of a rival really hurts him....Chris Byrd and Lamon Brewster are about the closest things he's had to rivals.

I figure Lennox Lewis is the toughest on the list but also the must vulnerable as sometimes he wasn't able to get up for fights....sometimes he won anyway like vs Bruno but sometimes he got hammered like vs Rahman.

Riddick Bowe is the most flawed fighter...he would give up on his defense and give up his height and reach at points during a fight which would be devistating vs any of these guys in their primes.

Tyson was the weakest mentally and we saw what Holyfield could do to him...I don't see him doing well vs any of these guys in his prime.

1. Lewis
2. Holyfield
3. Bowe
4. Tyson
5. Wlad

How can anybody have Holyfield above Bowe?? They already fought when they were at their absolute best (Bowe vs. Holyfield 1) and Bowe beat him.

Bowe vs. Holyfield 2 - Bowe came in fat and looked like crap. Holyfield edged out a close, controversial decision.

Bowe vs. Holyfield 3 - Anybody who saw this fight knows that this wasn't Holyfield at his best. Bowe wins by TKO.

Because its who would have the most wins if they all fought. and holy and bowe split. And if they all fought twice Holy would probably finish second to lewis..

I see it like this..

Lewis(6-1) 2-0 against Wvlad,tyson, and bowe...with a loss to evander
holy (5-2) sweeping wvlad ,tyson with losses to lewis and bowe

The rest would probably all lose to each other plus to lewis and holy.

and I honestly think prime Wvlad with steward in his corner would beat tyson and bowe in one fight.

[El Kabong]

johnmaff, I hate to have to keep correcting you but #1 It's Lyle #2 I never said the stoppage wasn't the right thing to do and #3 The FACT that there was no rematch speaks volumes.