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    Default Re: I want Valero next for PacMan!

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    Pac and Valero's resume can not be compared, valero is already 27 and his still fighting BUM's pac by 24 already brutally defeated marco. Pac always had the better oppenents since day one of pacs career. They never put anybody in with valero that had a pulse til he couldn't beat the 19 straight 1st round record. They hyped valero up like that but only after he couldn't get the record did they test valero just a little with mosquera. Thats actually valero's only good win and his already going up near 30 years of age. Talk about pampered record man.
    Your talking like a pure hater. You either don't know or choose to ignore the fact that Valero until recently was not allowed to fight in the US. That right there is to blame for his poor opposition. Name a good fighter that would of gone to Japan and fought him? You can't. Cuz nobody would of done it. Valero has faced a lot of bums. But he's done what he's suppose to do with them. He's destroyed them. You can deny Valero's power if you want. But the great Erik Morales himself said Valero can punch. And Erik Morales opinion carries a lot more weight than yours.
    So your saying just cause a fighter never fights in the US he gonna have poor opposition. What about the U.K fighters? Valero could of done a lot better going places to places like winky did when he wasn't gettting the respect in the u.s. Mexico,Europe,Asia. in fact thats a featherweight champion named chris john in asia. why couldn't valero go up and see him? he went up and saw mosq but im pretty sure adding chris john would of been a lot better then the other 23 bums on his resume.

    yea eric said he can punch but thats in sparring. valero is sparring mate to eric and mab for preparation to pac. That should tell you his level compared to pac. a sparing mate, valero is just a sparring mate.
    Valero has never fought at 126 in his life. Why would he drop down to that weight and travel to Indonesia to fight Chris John. How much sense would that make? Every one saw what happened to Marquez when he went over there. And you can't compare Winky situation to Valero. Winky got no respect in the US cuz of his fighting style. Valero couldn't get licensed in the US. Big difference.

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    Default Re: I want Valero next for PacMan!

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    Your talking like a pure hater. You either don't know or choose to ignore the fact that Valero until recently was not allowed to fight in the US. That right there is to blame for his poor opposition. Name a good fighter that would of gone to Japan and fought him? You can't. Cuz nobody would of done it. Valero has faced a lot of bums. But he's done what he's suppose to do with them. He's destroyed them. You can deny Valero's power if you want. But the great Erik Morales himself said Valero can punch. And Erik Morales opinion carries a lot more weight than yours.
    So your saying just cause a fighter never fights in the US he gonna have poor opposition. What about the U.K fighters? Valero could of done a lot better going places to places like winky did when he wasn't gettting the respect in the u.s. Mexico,Europe,Asia. in fact thats a featherweight champion named chris john in asia. why couldn't valero go up and see him? he went up and saw mosq but im pretty sure adding chris john would of been a lot better then the other 23 bums on his resume.

    yea eric said he can punch but thats in sparring. valero is sparring mate to eric and mab for preparation to pac. That should tell you his level compared to pac. a sparing mate, valero is just a sparring mate.
    Valero has never fought at 126 in his life. Why would he drop down to that weight and travel to Indonesia to fight Chris John. How much sense would that make? Every one saw what happened to Marquez when he went over there. And you can't compare Winky situation to Valero. Winky got no respect in the US cuz of his fighting style. Valero couldn't get licensed in the US. Big difference.
    he said he'd drop to 126 before for pac back when pac was still down in that division. And everybody was like valero is going to knock pac out. He could of drop down and knock john out no problem if his hype is that real. unlike jmm valero wouldn't let it go to the decision right?

    yea i can't compare winky and valero, winky is a great fighter.

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    Default Re: I want Valero next for PacMan!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
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    So your saying just cause a fighter never fights in the US he gonna have poor opposition. What about the U.K fighters? Valero could of done a lot better going places to places like winky did when he wasn't gettting the respect in the u.s. Mexico,Europe,Asia. in fact thats a featherweight champion named chris john in asia. why couldn't valero go up and see him? he went up and saw mosq but im pretty sure adding chris john would of been a lot better then the other 23 bums on his resume.

    yea eric said he can punch but thats in sparring. valero is sparring mate to eric and mab for preparation to pac. That should tell you his level compared to pac. a sparing mate, valero is just a sparring mate.
    Valero has never fought at 126 in his life. Why would he drop down to that weight and travel to Indonesia to fight Chris John. How much sense would that make? Every one saw what happened to Marquez when he went over there. And you can't compare Winky situation to Valero. Winky got no respect in the US cuz of his fighting style. Valero couldn't get licensed in the US. Big difference.
    he said he'd drop to 126 before for pac back when pac was still down in that division. And everybody was like valero is going to knock pac out. He could of drop down and knock john out no problem if his hype is that real. unlike jmm valero wouldn't let it go to the decision right?

    yea i can't compare winky and valero, winky is a great fighter.

    Asking Valero to drop to 126 to fight Chris John is like asking Pavlik to drop to 154 to fight Cory Spink (if he was still champion). It makes no sense. And it's dumb. People want to see Valero fight. Nobody wants to see John fight. Valero is the bigger name. A big puncher. Big names and big punchers don't drop down in weight to fight runners.

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    Default Re: I want Valero next for PacMan!

    so do you think valero can beat pac?

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    Default Re: I want Valero next for PacMan!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    so do you think valero can beat pac?
    No. I think Pac will win a one-sided fight if he boxes. If he trades with him he gives Valero his only chance of winning. And yes I do think Valero has the power to hurt Pac. But it won't happen. Pac is not a stupid fighter. He won't fight Valero's fight. There is no need too.

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    Default Re: I want Valero next for PacMan!

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    so do you think valero can beat pac?
    No. I think Pac will win a one-sided fight if he boxes. If he trades with him he gives Valero his only chance of winning. And yes I do think Valero has the power to hurt Pac. But it won't happen. Pac is not a stupid fighter. He won't fight Valero's fight. There is no need too.
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