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    Default Re: who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

    Lewis.I have Hatton over Calzaghe though.

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    Default Re: who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

    I think some confuse the term best with that of greatest. There are marked differences.

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    Default Re: who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I think some confuse the term best with that of greatest. There are marked differences.
    Go on then

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    Default Re: who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I think some confuse the term best with that of greatest. There are marked differences.
    Go on then
    Alright then...

    The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

    But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

    Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.

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    Default Re: who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I think some confuse the term best with that of greatest. There are marked differences.
    Go on then
    Alright then...

    The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

    But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

    Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.
    Good post.

    Although I wouldn't say Lewis had a "silly chin".

    And I still rate Lewis the best of that three.

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    Default Re: who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Go on then
    Alright then...

    The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

    But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

    Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.
    Good post.

    Although I wouldn't say Lewis had a "silly chin".

    And I still rate Lewis the best of that three.
    Its my Tuesday night so Im liable to slip with my phraseology. Lewis didnt have a silly chin as a number of his fights have proven. But he could be knocked out by a lower breed of fighter. Rahman was a decidedly unfortunate affair. Hopefully James Toney will knock out that chump next week!

    Ultimately its all down to opinions or just how you interpret the question so Ive no issues with the judgements made. I just have my own way of defining how the said judgement is made. And like Calzaghe as the fighter that is better in terms of beating any of those other fighters P4P.

    I do think the initial question is seriously flawed and needs to define its terms more effectively.

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    Default Re: who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post

    Alright then...

    The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

    But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

    Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.
    Good post.

    Although I wouldn't say Lewis had a "silly chin".

    And I still rate Lewis the best of that three.
    Its my Tuesday night so Im liable to slip with my phraseology. Lewis didnt have a silly chin as a number of his fights have proven. But he could be knocked out by a lower breed of fighter. Rahman was a decidedly unfortunate affair. Hopefully James Toney will knock out that chump next week!

    Ultimately its all down to opinions or just how you interpret the question so Ive no issues with the judgements made. I just have my own way of defining how the said judgement is made. And like Calzaghe as the fighter that is better in terms of beating any of those other fighters P4P.

    I do think the initial question is seriously flawed and needs to define its terms more effectively.
    I'm not sure who would win in a P4P situation. I didn't really look at it like that. Lewis sort of had a dominant presence that I don't think Calzaghe has ever really possessed.

    I'd confidently pick Calzaghe to beat Hatton P4P though... and Lewis would easily KO him (Hatt).

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    Default Re: who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

    I'd go with Lennox. I don't think he loses any credibility for the Vitali fight, if giving somebody 50 stitches and making that kind of damage to somebodies face doesn't mean you have won the fight I don't know what does. If you saw a fight in the pub and somebody ended up like Vitali, would you say 'oh but the other guy was a couple of points ahead on my scorecard' Lewis did a job on him - simple as.

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    Default Re: who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I think some confuse the term best with that of greatest. There are marked differences.
    Go on then
    Alright then...

    The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

    But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

    Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.
    Well personally in general I would agree but I think that Ali was more skillfull a boxer than a lot of "greats" in lower divisions than him including Calzaghe. So smaller doesn't necessarily mean "obviously better". I know where your coming from though.

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    Default Re: who is the best british fighter of the last 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Go on then
    Alright then...

    The greatest is something that encapsulates the fighter who has achieved the most. Lewis was in the so called ultimate divisision and won a lot of big fights. He had his flaws though but was able to fix what was wrong. He proved his greatness but revealed great flaws.

    But I think Calzaghe is the best. He hasnt beaten all the names Lewis has but he hasnt lost and I dont think he has revealed real weaknesses. He has no silly chin for example. He doesnt under prepare. He has the best raw skills. Calzaghe is the best of those fighters.

    Lewis was a heavyweight which gives him the greatness, but skills wise the smaller guys are obviously better. And Calzaghe is the best of them.
    Well personally in general I would agree but I think that Ali was more skillfull a boxer than a lot of "greats" in lower divisions than him including Calzaghe. So smaller doesn't necessarily mean "obviously better". I know where your coming from though.
    I dont think smaller always equates with being better in boxing. I just think with these three boxers the middle sized one is the better one.

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