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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Brutal. I'm beginning to miss Jermaine Taylor, at least when he cherry-picked gimme opponents he only dipped one weight class below his.
    True, but I'd rather see Pavlik fight a big-name welter than a no-name middleweight. I'd rather see Paul Williams get a shot than another Gary Lockett.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Brutal. I'm beginning to miss Jermaine Taylor, at least when he cherry-picked gimme opponents he only dipped one weight class below his.
    True, but I'd rather see Pavlik fight a big-name welter than a no-name middleweight. I'd rather see Paul Williams get a shot than another Gary Lockett.
    There has to be someone in the top 15 MW's who is more deserving of this fight. I know they want a gimme to set up Pavlik-Abraham (at least I hope that's what they're doing), but Pavlik just had a gimme fight in Lockett. Williams has never ever fought at LMW, let alone MW, and he's done nothing to deserve a shot at Pavlik. The fight has little credibility and no competitive aspect to it, Pavlik will steamroll Williams.

    Jermaine Taylor was raked over the coals when he fought Ouma and Spinks, and that was after a series of fights against much better opposition than Pavlik has faced, I hope Pavlik gets that same treatment.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Brutal. I'm beginning to miss Jermaine Taylor, at least when he cherry-picked gimme opponents he only dipped one weight class below his.
    True, but I'd rather see Pavlik fight a big-name welter than a no-name middleweight. I'd rather see Paul Williams get a shot than another Gary Lockett.
    There has to be someone in the top 15 MW's who is more deserving of this fight. I know they want a gimme to set up Pavlik-Abraham (at least I hope that's what they're doing), but Pavlik just had a gimme fight in Lockett. Williams has never ever fought at LMW, let alone MW, and he's done nothing to deserve a shot at Pavlik. The fight has little credibility and no competitive aspect to it, Pavlik will steamroll Williams.

    Jermaine Taylor was raked over the coals when he fought Ouma and Spinks, and that was after a series of fights against much better opposition than Pavlik has faced, I hope Pavlik gets that same treatment.
    Middleweight is not a deep division right now. Besides Abraham, name a middlweight who would create the buzz that a Williams fight will create.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    BBBBBWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    A guy who is a legit Lightheavyweight is fighting Paul Williams.

    AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    Please now shut up Pavlik fans please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    All this shit about Calzaghe BBBWWHHHAAAAA

    (Honestly i am laughing my head off)

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    BBBBBWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    A guy who is a legit Lightheavyweight is fighting Paul Williams.

    AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    Please now shut up Pavlik fans please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    All this shit about Calzaghe BBBWWHHHAAAAA

    (Honestly i am laughing my head off)
    Unlike your boy Calfage, Pavlik fights who ever challenges him. Willams did. He said on hbo he wanted Calzaghe next but Calzaghe took the easier fight with Jones Jr.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    I say as well take the money lose and fight Wright. He is a lefty as like Calzaghe (if he ever grew some balls to step in the ring with Pavlik) and this would prep him for Calzaghe. I do belive Williams at 6'2" has no reason to be at 147. He needs to bulk it up and go up to 154-160. He is fast. He throws allot of punches but I honestly dont see him going longer than 3-6 rounds. Pavlik touches that chin and Williams is not busy and on the defensive. Not to mention he is a southpaw.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    True, but I'd rather see Pavlik fight a big-name welter than a no-name middleweight. I'd rather see Paul Williams get a shot than another Gary Lockett.
    There has to be someone in the top 15 MW's who is more deserving of this fight. I know they want a gimme to set up Pavlik-Abraham (at least I hope that's what they're doing), but Pavlik just had a gimme fight in Lockett. Williams has never ever fought at LMW, let alone MW, and he's done nothing to deserve a shot at Pavlik. The fight has little credibility and no competitive aspect to it, Pavlik will steamroll Williams.

    Jermaine Taylor was raked over the coals when he fought Ouma and Spinks, and that was after a series of fights against much better opposition than Pavlik has faced, I hope Pavlik gets that same treatment.
    Middleweight is not a deep division right now. Besides Abraham, name a middlweight who would create the buzz that a Williams fight will create.
    Winky Wright.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post

    There has to be someone in the top 15 MW's who is more deserving of this fight. I know they want a gimme to set up Pavlik-Abraham (at least I hope that's what they're doing), but Pavlik just had a gimme fight in Lockett. Williams has never ever fought at LMW, let alone MW, and he's done nothing to deserve a shot at Pavlik. The fight has little credibility and no competitive aspect to it, Pavlik will steamroll Williams.

    Jermaine Taylor was raked over the coals when he fought Ouma and Spinks, and that was after a series of fights against much better opposition than Pavlik has faced, I hope Pavlik gets that same treatment.
    Middleweight is not a deep division right now. Besides Abraham, name a middlweight who would create the buzz that a Williams fight will create.
    Winky Wright.
    And he already priced himself out.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Middleweight is not a deep division right now. Besides Abraham, name a middlweight who would create the buzz that a Williams fight will create.
    Winky Wright.
    And he already priced himself out.

    Link?

    What about Strum!!

    Arum knows he steps Pavlik up he loses and in a bad way.

    I hate warrren but he is 100% right that Arum knows this big bum is so limited he would never fight anyone legit at 168lbs and get ultra bum after the Taylor re-match.

    Imagine if Mayweather did this imagine the crap he would get i think this big bum is worse.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Stupid fight. Williams will get smoked by a big middleweight puncher like Pavlik. Why the hell is Pavlik wanting to fight a welterweight when he can probably beat anyone in the world at 168? I guess its 2 good names and there will be some money there, but this is a silly fight to me.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Middleweight is not a deep division right now. Besides Abraham, name a middlweight who would create the buzz that a Williams fight will create.
    Winky Wright.
    And he already priced himself out.
    Not that I necessarily disbelieve him, but this is according to Bob Arum, the same Bob Arum famous for the quote, "Yesterday when I spoke to you I was lying, today I am telling the truth..."

    A few weeks ago he was saying the same thing about Williams as well, apparently Williams was demanding 2.5M...

    Winky himself has gone on record saying he's not pricing himself out, that he's willing to fight Pavlik in his backyard for a relatively small amount of money.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Brutal. I'm beginning to miss Jermaine Taylor, at least when he cherry-picked gimme opponents he only dipped one weight class below his.
    True, but I'd rather see Pavlik fight a big-name welter than a no-name middleweight. I'd rather see Paul Williams get a shot than another Gary Lockett.
    There has to be someone in the top 15 MW's who is more deserving of this fight. I know they want a gimme to set up Pavlik-Abraham (at least I hope that's what they're doing), but Pavlik just had a gimme fight in Lockett. Williams has never ever fought at LMW, let alone MW, and he's done nothing to deserve a shot at Pavlik. The fight has little credibility and no competitive aspect to it, Pavlik will steamroll Williams.

    Jermaine Taylor was raked over the coals when he fought Ouma and Spinks, and that was after a series of fights against much better opposition than Pavlik has faced, I hope Pavlik gets that same treatment.

    This is worse than Spink and Ouma FIRSTLY Ouma and Spinks are legit 154lb fighters held titles at the weight SECONDLY Williams has never fought above 147 THIRDLY Pavlik is 6 Fucking 3".

    BBBWWHHHAAAAA!!!!

    Worse match up in a few decades, BBBWWHHHAAAAA

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    This is worse than Spink and Ouma FIRSTLY Ouma and Spinks are legit 154lb fighters held titles at the weight SECONDLY Williams has never fought above 147 THIRDLY Pavlik is 6 Fucking 3".

    BBBWWHHHAAAAA!!!!

    Worse match up in a few decades, BBBWWHHHAAAAA
    Williams is a freakishly big welterweight who rehydrates up into the mid-160s for his fights. He's bigger than Spinks or Ouma and is a more dangerous opponent.

    I think Pavlik knocks out Williams, but I give Williams a better chance than I gave either Ouma or Spinks.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27



    Williams may well be a big freak but still.. this is a "gimme" 2 for Pavlik.

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    Default Re: Arum Says Pavlik Vs Paul Williams "Seems" Like Done Deal For 9/27

    Paul's first dozen fights were at Jr Middleweight and Middleweight.

    He moved down in weight to fight the smaller guys.

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