Cowardly klitscho and Tony "The Kitten" Thompson make me sick!!! [spoilers]

[El Kabong]

Wow, It's shocking to me that such a boring fighter has so many fans; I have fought amateur but never against a southpaw. But even as an amateur i can see the huge mistakes being made by Wladmir and Thompson and it's atrocious! I mean has Thompson still honestly not learnt to slip a punch? Wow; and Klitscho why does he get into those tumbles with fighters? he fights scared is clumsy and has no in game! I was Angry yesterday; Maybe I should not have responded like that but a lot of people (Lyle etc) Responded like some real bitc hes. I'm no bully and I'm not going to act hard over the internet as I hate keyboard gangsters but for people to say fuck me for insulting a fighter! Well FUCK THEM, I hope anyone who said that to me realizes this is a board for discussion you may occasionally get people who disagree with you or who hate fighters you love.

So you have fought some amateur fights and you think you can personally do better? It's not surprising for a boxer to have such a gross amount of arrogance. In your post you don't give any respect to a guy apparently very few fighters can test much less beat...and Tony Thompson deserves respect for making it to the 11th round period, everyone thought it was going to be an early KO. As for never fighting a southpaw, it's very different I've sparred with a couple of them and it does pose problems for throwing the jab and just finding your openings in general.

Thompson is 6'5....I doubt he's had much of an opportunity to SLIP punches as you don't want to give up your height and reach. Winky Wright one of the best defensive fighters of the modern era rarely SLIPS punches.


Wlad fought scared? No Wlad fought at a measured pace and why fight at a measured pace? Because he beat the crap out of Purrity and Brewster and they weathered the storm and were able to turn the tables. Wlad took more punishment from Thompson than has recently been the case. Wlad has 45 KO's out of 51 fights not only because of his power but because he fights smart...he can tire someone out and make them want to not get up before he ever puts them down and that is EXACTLY what happened to Thompson.


You don't like Wlad fine join the club, you don't like Thompson fine, but if you're going to disrespect fighters the way you started the thread out then you're not going to recieve glowing reviews for your comments. So I suggest you tone down the name calling of the fighters and just focus on the actual fight that went on which even I might agree with you on....should Wlad have gone to the body more? YES. Should Thompson have thrown more punches? YES. Does Wlad tie up a lot? Yes, but it's part of his fight strategy and it might make for an ugly fight but it's worked for him extremely well.

Wlad isn't a perfect fighter but he's a good heavyweight and by the end of his career he may be a great champion....like it or not

[Fenster]

Wlad will be remembered as a china-chinned boring bottlejob.

[El Kabong]

Wlad is the best out there...and by the end of his career he's going to be mentioned with some big names....maybe even Lennox Lewis


And before people argue with me about that, Wlad is 32 and if Haye IS a good heavyweight and Wlad KO's him and unifies the belts along with beating some other top level fighters maybe a Solis or Povetkin after they become more seasoned fighters then people are going to have to give him SOME credit for being a good fighter.


Wlad still doesn't get any credit for beating Sam Peter!

[Fenster]

Wlad is the best out there

True.

and by the end of his career he's going to be mentioned with some big names....maybe even Lennox Lewis

No chance. He'll never be regarded as a GREAT. He is due another KO loss too.

[BoxingGorilla]

Wlad still doesn't get any credit for beating Sam Peter!

I think Wladimir scrambled Sam Peter's brain. I haven't understood a word he has said since the fight.

Seriously, during the Klitschko fight Peter looked like he could take a spiked bat to the face and stay on his feet. Since then he has been knocked down by an unconvincing Jameel McCline and staggered by the inferior Maskaev.

If they fight again I think Wlad KO's Peter.

[Kirkland Laing]

Wlad is the best out there...and by the end of his career he's going to be mentioned with some big names....maybe even Lennox Lewis


And before people argue with me about that, Wlad is 32 and if Haye IS a good heavyweight and Wlad KO's him and unifies the belts along with beating some other top level fighters maybe a Solis or Povetkin after they become more seasoned fighters then people are going to have to give him SOME credit for being a good fighter.


Wlad still doesn't get any credit for beating Sam Peter!

He isn't a good fighter. He's the least worst heavyweight in a garbage division. If he'd been born 20 years earlier nobody would ever have heard of him.

[El Kabong]

He isn't a good fighter. He's the least worst heavyweight in a garbage division. If he'd been born 20 years earlier nobody would ever have heard of him.

Yeah they would have 1988 the heavyweight division wasn't exactly STACKED....sure Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe,....Tyson was on the decline. Wlad would have been up there with them.

List the contenders those guys faced and Wlad would beat them

[Kirkland Laing]

He isn't a good fighter. He's the least worst heavyweight in a garbage division. If he'd been born 20 years earlier nobody would ever have heard of him.

Yeah they would have 1988 the heavyweight division wasn't exactly STACKED....sure Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe,....Tyson was on the decline. Wlad would have been up there with them.

List the contenders those guys faced and Wlad would beat them

He stayed well out of the way of anybody good fighting journeymen in Germany till they retired, clearly he knew his limits even before he discovered his jaw was constructed out of the finest crystal. Your boy got beat by Ross "The Boss" Purrity, a garbage fighter with a losing record. He fights knowing one good punch on his china chin will put him on his Frankenstein arse yet again which is why his fights are always rubbish. No heavyweight with a glass jaw will ever be ranked as a great heavyweight. He only holds a belt because there are no good heavyweights anymore.

[El Kabong]

Wlad tired out vs Purrity...hey shit happens Wlad's champ now so fucking live with it

[amat]

Laing disagreeing with Lyle

I think what people are misunderstanding is, the reason people don't give him credit for beating Sam Peter is because they don't think anything of Peter or anyone else in the division. That's the whole point, it's a shitty division with a mediocre champion. Yeah he has top wins over top contenders like Byrd and Peter, but if people don't think anything of Byrd and Peter then obviously they aren't going to rate those wins.

[Kirkland Laing]

Laing disagreeing with Lyle

I think what people are misunderstanding is, the reason people don't give him credit for beating Sam Peter is because they don't think anything of Peter or anyone else in the division. That's the whole point, it's a shitty division with a mediocre champion. Yeah he has top wins over top contenders like Byrd and Peter, but if people don't think anything of Byrd and Peter then obviously they aren't going to rate those wins.

What can I do? Lyle is always wrong about everything.

[piye]

Wow, It's shocking to me that such a boring fighter has so many fans; I have fought amateur but never against a southpaw. But even as an amateur i can see the huge mistakes being made by Wladmir and Thompson and it's atrocious! I mean has Thompson still honestly not learnt to slip a punch? Wow; and Klitscho why does he get into those tumbles with fighters? he fights scared is clumsy and has no in game! I was Angry yesterday; Maybe I should not have responded like that but a lot of people (Lyle etc) Responded like some real bitc hes. I'm no bully and I'm not going to act hard over the internet as I hate keyboard gangsters but for people to say fuck me for insulting a fighter! Well FUCK THEM, I hope anyone who said that to me realizes this is a board for discussion you may occasionally get people who disagree with you or who hate fighters you love.

So you have fought some amateur fights and you think you can personally do better? It's not surprising for a boxer to have such a gross amount of arrogance. In your post you don't give any respect to a guy apparently very few fighters can test much less beat...and Tony Thompson deserves respect for making it to the 11th round period, everyone thought it was going to be an early KO. As for never fighting a southpaw, it's very different I've sparred with a couple of them and it does pose problems for throwing the jab and just finding your openings in general.

Thompson is 6'5....I doubt he's had much of an opportunity to SLIP punches as you don't want to give up your height and reach. Winky Wright one of the best defensive fighters of the modern era rarely SLIPS punches.


Wlad fought scared? No Wlad fought at a measured pace and why fight at a measured pace? Because he beat the crap out of Purrity and Brewster and they weathered the storm and were able to turn the tables. Wlad took more punishment from Thompson than has recently been the case. Wlad has 45 KO's out of 51 fights not only because of his power but because he fights smart...he can tire someone out and make them want to not get up before he ever puts them down and that is EXACTLY what happened to Thompson.


You don't like Wlad fine join the club, you don't like Thompson fine, but if you're going to disrespect fighters the way you started the thread out then you're not going to recieve glowing reviews for your comments. So I suggest you tone down the name calling of the fighters and just focus on the actual fight that went on which even I might agree with you on....should Wlad have gone to the body more? YES. Should Thompson have thrown more punches? YES. Does Wlad tie up a lot? Yes, but it's part of his fight strategy and it might make for an ugly fight but it's worked for him extremely well.

Wlad isn't a perfect fighter but he's a good heavyweight and by the end of his career he may be a great champion....like it or not

I'm sorry but I've been reading this forum for ages, and I have noticed how you give some great fighters no credit yet you praise the clumsy excessively cautious Klitscho? Something weird going on there.

[El Kabong]

And what GREAT fighters have I given no respect to? Floyd? Toney? Ali? Yeah I've dissed those guys a couple times but all while saying they are/were extremely talented and still considered great fighters.....sorry it's not the same as calling them faggots


I may have called Naz that but isn't he?