Jesse Jackson wants to cut Obama's nuts off

[El Kabong]

OK let's try to figure this out Kirkland, McCain has changed some views of his to suit the Conservative base.....meanwhile Obama has changed some views of his to suit the moderates and independents.....so both of them have done it but you only choose to show what McCain has changed and therefore you're giving half of the story and therefore it's a biased view and therefore it's a negative campaign ad and not journalism.

They are both trying to win a general election it's the same as Bush vs Gore it's the same as Clinton vs Bush or Clinton vs Dole or Reagan vs Mondale etc etc AMEN. The thing you fail to realize is that this thread is not about McCain and Obama but about Jesse Jackson, if you want to debate the Presidential Election then make a thread about it otherwise stick to the topic at hand.

And I couldn't wait until someone blamed Fox for some "vast right wing conspiracy"...Kirkland Jesse did have a mic on and he was stupid enough to say what he said infront on a camera whether it was on or not was a gamble, he took it and he lost. Now I want him to suffer the kind of fate everyone who has crossed him has suffered. Yes Pat Robertson is a very good comparison he's a nut job as was Falwell.....as is Sharpton as is Farrakahn as are Wright and Fleger they are all a bunch of idiots and if I was running for President I would run on the platform that we load them into a rocket and fire them into the sun!

[Kirkland Laing]

OK let's try to figure this out Kirkland, McCain has changed some views of his to suit the Conservative base.....meanwhile Obama has changed some views of his to suit the moderates and independents.....so both of them have done it but you only choose to show what McCain has changed and therefore you're giving half of the story and therefore it's a biased view and therefore it's a negative campaign ad and not journalism.

They are both trying to win a general election it's the same as Bush vs Gore it's the same as Clinton vs Bush or Clinton vs Dole or Reagan vs Mondale etc etc AMEN. The thing you fail to realize is that this thread is not about McCain and Obama but about Jesse Jackson, if you want to debate the Presidential Election then make a thread about it otherwise stick to the topic at hand.

And I couldn't wait until someone blamed Fox for some "vast right wing conspiracy"...Kirkland Jesse did have a mic on and he was stupid enough to say what he said infront on a camera whether it was on or not was a gamble, he took it and he lost. Now I want him to suffer the kind of fate everyone who has crossed him has suffered. Yes Pat Robertson is a very good comparison he's a nut job as was Falwell.....as is Sharpton as is Farrakahn as are Wright and Fleger they are all a bunch of idiots and if I was running for President I would run on the platform that we load them into a rocket and fire them into the sun!

Try reading the article Lyle. Flip flopping is one or two issues out of ten, and only because he made those filp flops this week. One point in the article is McCain's plan to balance the budget that includes no actual numbers. His entire budget-balancing plan revolves around "winning" in Iraq, yet not one dollar from the Iraq or Afghanistan wars is included in the official budget numbers, so even if McCain cut Iraq/Afghan spending to zero it would have zero effect on the official budget deficit. If Obama had presented a joke like that as his economic plan it would still be being talked about all the way up to the election, another example of liberal cluelessness and another reason why you just can't take electing a Democrat seriously. Yet McCain does it and the media ignores it. And that's just one point out of ten.

Jackson didn't call somebody a nappy-headed ho or anything racist in public so there's no comparison to those kind of situations. He made a private comment about somebody that a microphone picked up and the manufactured-outrage brigade spun into a story.

[El Kabong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77XqG8p6-GE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc


What's racist about "nappy headed ho" Please feel free to enlighten me on that one....if you're saying white girls can't be nappy or hoes then THAT my friend is racist....and ignorant...but would we expect anything less from you?

[Kirkland Laing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77XqG8p6-GE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc

What's racist about "nappy headed ho" Please feel free to enlighten me on that one....if you're saying white girls can't be nappy or hoes then THAT my friend is racist....and ignorant...but would we expect anything less from you?

I think the vast majority of Americans found the remark racist and certainly Imus's former employers did, and he was rightly sacked.

You've cornered the market in ignorant racism Lyle, and neither of those terms could remotely be applied to me.


How about McCain's chief economic advisor calling Americans a bunch of whiners for compalining about a recesion he claimed was a figment of their imagination last week? If the Obama campaign had done that then released an economic plan with no actual numbers we'd be hearing how they were out of touch, elitist, divorced from reality etc. But the McCain campaign gets a free pass from the media every time they do something that would effectively end Obama's campaign.

[Wayne]

I'm not buying into any stereotype...I'm tired of the bullshit excuses! It's not a color it's a way of life because white kids and hispanic kids and asian kids do it too!!!!


Bill Cosby wants people to move forward and contribute to society instead of rebelling from society by not achieving in school and then pinning the blame on "whitey"....I have nothing to do with any reason why anyone is poor or uneducated.....some people (black, white, whoever) need to get it through their thick fucking skulls that they are in control of their life and they choose where they go...they don't choose where they are brought up but they choose what they make out of it. What Bill Cosby says is good for ANYONE to hear not just blacks....get and education, better yourself, and contribute to society! What the fuck is wrong with that Is it wrong to tell someone to stop acting like a fucking thug? Is it wrong to try and help them see how they can get jobs and provide for....A FAMILY instead of turning to crime or running away from their problems


Jesse Jackson pimps his race out for money....he's a worthless piece of shit and why people follow him is beyond me.

Imus made a mistake in his comments with the nappy headed hoes....it was a slow news week that did him in, but when the Pacman Jones comment surfaced it was taken out of context and everyone wanted his head....too bad they didn't take the time to understand what he was saying but then again that was never the way Jesse or Al opperated.


The sad thing is Jesse will still be on MSNBC, Fox, CBS, NBC, CNN and all those other stations whenever there is some kind of racial issue in America....same with Al. And rumor has it that little blurb about cutting Barack's nuts off was just a little bit of what Fox has of Jackson.

How were Imus' comments about Pacman Jones taken out of context? He provided the context in which they were taken. You already got in hot water for comments you said about black people in the past, then you make another weird comment and when you try to explain it away you only confuse the situation even more. I heard the clips- the extended clips that play both before and after and Imus' explanation makes 0 sense. What, he's not racist because he's hired black people? He's not racist because he allegedly feels the police pick on black people? Please- if the excuse doesn't work for us it doesn't work for Imus, either. Sometimes a dick is a dick and the reason Pacman got arrested all those times was because he's a dick and not because he's black. The police don't follow him around trying to make trouble for him. Imus is a good ol' boy from a good ol' time when saying things like that was no big deal. I'm not going to believe he had some life-changing experience and all of a sudden loves black people. The only person I believe that from is George Wallace and it took someone popping a cap in his ass to change his heart (I don't condone that sort of thing, by the way). I'll acknowledge it's hearsay, but away from microphones, just walking down the hall at work Howard Stern said Imus called a black secretary who worked at the station a nigger. Hell, Imus didn't deny it- he used an excuse, citing those were his heavy boozing days. Sorry, as drunk as I've been I've never gone out and started making anti-Semitic remarks or using slurs against Mexicans. Imus stuck his foot in his mouth again. I don't condone the guy losing his job the first time and don't think he should now. I personally hate that radio doesn't stand up for their talent, albeit I'm using the word 'talent' loosely in reference to Imus, but when they just bend over anytime something that's viewed negatively happens the only ones who suffer are the fans of that particular show. I don't like Imus- therefore I don't listen. If enough people felt that way and enough people just tuned him out and he got fired for poor ratings, that would be fair. But if he has a loyal audience I don't think it's right for someone or a group of someones to put pressure on his sponsors so the guy gets the ax. That's next door neighbor to racketeering in my opinion. But let's call a spade a spade in this case. Imus is a knee-jerk racist and at the very most he deserves his critics.

[HattonTheHammer]

being an uneducated brit with bad teeth and grammar you`ll have to excuse my lack of knowledge on the whole american political situation.

But from my brief knowledge ive so far managed to work out....


Jesse Jackson - is an over opinonated moron who plays the race card at every turn and is probably as big a cunt in reality as i suspect he is.

Barrack Obama - really looks like he could do with a good meal inside him.

Hilary Clinton - surprisingly gives me the horn

[Wayne]

Wow.

Dead on about Jesse Jackson (I wouldn't be surprised if he intentionally got caught on camera whispering and it just blew up in his face)

Obama is actually in pretty good shape for a 46 year old. He's not like Clinton was who was a fatty-fat who didn't see a McDonald's he didn't like. It's alleged that during his jogs with the Secret Service he'd stop over and get a Big Mac.

If you get wood over Hillary you are just a sick, sick puppy. The governor of Michigan is kinda cute, though. Just a little moley. Jenny from the Block

[El Kabong]

How were Imus' comments about Pacman Jones taken out of context? He provided the context in which they were taken.

Well buddy I heard it in context and Imus meant what he said, he meant "Pacman is black and got targeted by the police because of that"...why would Imus a guy who has DEDICATED (and continues to dedicate) ENTIRE SHOWS to race relations do that? No one he has had on said what he said was wrong and believe you me they would if they thaught he meant that "because Pacman is black he gets in trouble"....that's LAZY to think that you probably didn't even know about those shows about race relations but oh well you won't care because your opinion is already formed and you obviously dislike Imus....oh well I know I'll cry myself to sleep tonight because of it



Kirkland....what have I said that's racist? I asked you a question you answer it by just calling me racist for failing to stereotype ONLY black people as having the ability to be nappy or ho's. I'm equal opportunity offensive I see PLENTY of nappy white people and plenty of white ho's and plenty of other races and ethnicities that are nappy and ho's....it's not ONLY black people that are but if you say so....which if you're calling Imus' remarks racist you're doing then fine have it your way from here on it's only blacks that can be nappy or ho's.

Once again Kirkland this thread isn't about who is going to be a better President this is about how Jesse Jackson is a race pimp and how he's threatened by Obama stealing his limelight. And you recently said you weren't ignorant well not accepting the crux of this thread you're showing your ignorance or your stubborness you're very good at it whichever it is.

[Kirkland Laing]

How were Imus' comments about Pacman Jones taken out of context? He provided the context in which they were taken.

Well buddy I heard it in context and Imus meant what he said, he meant "Pacman is black and got targeted by the police because of that"...why would Imus a guy who has DEDICATED (and continues to dedicate) ENTIRE SHOWS to race relations do that? No one he has had on said what he said was wrong and believe you me they would if they thaught he meant that "because Pacman is black he gets in trouble"....that's LAZY to think that you probably didn't even know about those shows about race relations but oh well you won't care because your opinion is already formed and you obviously dislike Imus....oh well I know I'll cry myself to sleep tonight because of it



Kirkland....what have I said that's racist? I asked you a question you answer it by just calling me racist for failing to stereotype ONLY black people as having the ability to be nappy or ho's. I'm equal opportunity offensive I see PLENTY of nappy white people and plenty of white ho's and plenty of other races and ethnicities that are nappy and ho's....it's not ONLY black people that are but if you say so....which if you're calling Imus' remarks racist you're doing then fine have it your way from here on it's only blacks that can be nappy or ho's.

Once again Kirkland this thread isn't about who is going to be a better President this is about how Jesse Jackson is a race pimp and how he's threatened by Obama stealing his limelight. And you recently said you weren't ignorant well not accepting the crux of this thread you're showing your ignorance or your stubborness you're very good at it whichever it is.

If you brand an entire black women's college basketball team as hos or nappy-headed then you're perpetuating racist stereotypes. What part of that don't you understand? Certainly Imus's employers understood eventually.

Jackson hasn't threatened anybody. He's the victim of another manufactured outrage by the right.

[El Kabong]

Rutgers has white girls on their team and had white girls on the team when Imus made those comments AND the Tennessee team did have black players on their team.


Jackson hasn't threatened anyone? Jackson gets away with corporate blackmail it's how he makes his living....he finds something offensive threatens a boycott and gets big money NASCAR, Toyota, etc. he's gotten a lot of them.

As for being "manufactured" that's fucking stupid he said what he said infront of a camera and while he was microphoned....how fucking stupid does one have to be to say what he said in that situation He could have waited until after the interview to have his private conversation but I guess thinking that makes me a racist, I'm happy you're here to call me out of it Kirkland

[Kirkland Laing]

Rutgers has white girls on their team and had white girls on the team when Imus made those comments AND the Tennessee team did have black players on their team.


Jackson hasn't threatened anyone? Jackson gets away with corporate blackmail it's how he makes his living....he finds something offensive threatens a boycott and gets big money NASCAR, Toyota, etc. he's gotten a lot of them.

As for being "manufactured" that's fucking stupid he said what he said infront of a camera and while he was microphoned....how fucking stupid does one have to be to say what he said in that situation He could have waited until after the interview to have his private conversation but I guess thinking that makes me a racist, I'm happy you're here to call me out of it Kirkland

The vast majority of Americans ans Imus's employers found it racist. I'm happy to leave it there.

Jesse jackson does exactly what radical clerics Pat Robertson, James Dobson do. They all use the same shakedown tactics to make money and influence politicians, just Pat and James are far more successful than Jesse and don't get criticism or coverage of what they do. Let's agree that Jackson was stupid to say something in front of a camera even though he wasn't on air at the time and leave it at that.


I notice you still haven't said anything about the whiners comment. George Bush's latest corporate socialist bailout of Fanny and Freddy to prevent economic disaster caused by his own policies could see $10 gasoline and huge tax increases/double digit interest rates. How do you feel about that, or that the architect of scrapping all the banking regulations that led to the current meltdown is now McCain's chief economic advisor and could become the new Secretary to the Treasury?

[El Kabong]

Imus was the victim of a slow news week and everyone knows it


Some Americans ARE whiners(I figure you'll take time to try to aim a barb at me after reading that so go ahead).....some people like to complain and some people like to hype up this talk of recession which we're not yet in and some people like to think we're on the verge of another "Great Depression" and that is fucking ridiculous if you know anything about the "Great Depression" people are still buying Starbucks coffee and some people are still buying SUV's so things aren't ALL bad.


You can't just allow Freddy and Fannie to collapse that would be bad for the WORLD not just America.

Gramm isn't going to be the Secretary of the Treasury that is beyond frivilous...they were considering him as Ambassador to Belarus, Sec of the Treasury is a bit of a stretch from there

[Kirkland Laing]

Imus was the victim of a slow news week and everyone knows it


Some Americans ARE whiners(I figure you'll take time to try to aim a barb at me after reading that so go ahead).....some people like to complain and some people like to hype up this talk of recession which we're not yet in and some people like to think we're on the verge of another "Great Depression" and that is fucking ridiculous if you know anything about the "Great Depression" people are still buying Starbucks coffee and some people are still buying SUV's so things aren't ALL bad.


You can't just allow Freddy and Fannie to collapse that would be bad for the WORLD not just America.

Gramm isn't going to be the Secretary of the Treasury that is beyond frivilous...they were considering him as Ambassador to Belarus, Sec of the Treasury is a bit of a stretch from there

Some Americans are whiners? That's a very elitist comment Lyle.

I'm surprised to see you endorsing socialism too. A socialist elitist. How about that.

[amat]

Some people are buying SUVs like some people are ordering caviar at Applebees.

[El Kabong]

Some Americans are whiners? That's a very elitist comment Lyle.

I'm surprised to see you endorsing socialism too. A socialist elitist. How about that.

It's not elitist it's a fact but to what extent it's a fact is up for questioning, some English people whine too, some Germans whine, and some Italians whine....and some French people don't.

The media is just jumping all over this story of how everyone is suffering but I hate to break it to them but I'm doing just fine.

Gas prices will go down if America stops being oil prudes...we tell everyone else to drill the fuck out of their countries and the fucking environmentalists here bitch about any drilling OR refining we could do here....it's crazy! Mad Made global warming is a myth

Now what do YOU think about Obama cutting Corporate taxes