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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
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    Like I posted in another thread, if Pavlik takes this fight then I will lose all respect for him, its plain fukin garbage

    Pavlik should be fighting Abraham to lock down the MW division, and people were pissed at Mayweather for doing this kind of thing
    No doubt about a fight with Abraham; but doesn't Arthur have to fight a mandatory 1st? Kelly has to do something in between; and personally I'd rather see him fight Hopkins than a Williams..... Actually Wright would be the one I would want to see before an Arthur showdown, but who really thinks that will happen?
    Wright. Hell I would pay 99.99 to see that shat. I would love to see Wright and Pavlik battle it out.
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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    In the paid member section of MaxBoxing.com, Steve Kim just posted that there is serious talks going on for a PPV fight between Pavlik & Hopkins on October 18th.

    I don't want to see this fight, let alone on PPV!

    That will be 4 PPV fights in just over a months time!

    Casamayor vs Marquez - Sept 13th

    Calzaghe vs Jones - Sept 20th

    Mosley vs Mayorga - October 11th

    and now

    Pavlik vs Old Bopkins on October 18th

    This is ridiculous, what the hell is HBO thinking!!!!
    We get them all for free

    Setanta Sports is the one

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Quote Originally Posted by CountryBoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
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    Like I posted in another thread, if Pavlik takes this fight then I will lose all respect for him, its plain fukin garbage

    Pavlik should be fighting Abraham to lock down the MW division, and people were pissed at Mayweather for doing this kind of thing
    No doubt about a fight with Abraham; but doesn't Arthur have to fight a mandatory 1st? Kelly has to do something in between; and personally I'd rather see him fight Hopkins than a Williams..... Actually Wright would be the one I would want to see before an Arthur showdown, but who really thinks that will happen?
    Wright. Hell I would pay 99.99 to see that shat. I would love to see Wright and Pavlik battle it out.
    Wright needs a warm up fight before he goes near Kelly. The ring rust at his age will affect him.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Like I posted in another thread, if Pavlik takes this fight then I will lose all respect for him, its plain fukin garbage
    Wow.... I have to say... I don't get this at all.

    It's "garbage" for Pavlik to fight an opponent who is one of the most accomplished middleweight champs in history, still one of the top 10 PFP fighters in the sport, and who just had a very competitive fight against a guy (Calzaghe) who some think is the #1 PFP fighter in the sport? That's garbage?

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    We all want to see Pavlik fight Abraham, but that won't take place until 2009, because of Abrahams mandatory against Raul Marquez.

    Now, Steve Kim just posted that Pavlik vs Hopkins may take the October 11th spot as a PPV, and that Mosley vs Mayorga will take the September 27th date as a regular HBO fight.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Pavlik-Abraham isn't happening next no matter what Kelly does. Abraham's already supposedly fighting Raul Marquez.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Like I posted in another thread, if Pavlik takes this fight then I will lose all respect for him, its plain fukin garbage

    Pavlik should be fighting Abraham to lock down the MW division, and people were pissed at Mayweather for doing this kind of thing
    I am a looong time Hopkins fan but I agree some here.The fight to be made Is Pavlik Vs. Abraham....period!Hopkins looked his age the last half vs. Calzaghe and Pavlik also brings massive Pressure behind solid jab and much more power.No,Im not calling it a blowout or even guarenteed "W" for Pavlik,Hopkins is still annoyingly viable but yet another...."Why" fight ala Mosley/Mayorga.Hey,I'll take Hopkins rather than Williams though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Like I posted in another thread, if Pavlik takes this fight then I will lose all respect for him, its plain fukin garbage
    Wow.... I have to say... I don't get this at all.

    It's "garbage" for Pavlik to fight an opponent who is one of the most accomplished middleweight champs in history, still one of the top 10 PFP fighters in the sport, and who just had a very competitive fight against a guy (Calzaghe) who some think is the #1 PFP fighter in the sport? That's garbage?
    He proved beyond a shadow of a doubt 3 years ago that he cant hang with young athletic fighter in his prime... So tell me the relevance of this fight again?

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    I'm a huge fan of Hopkins but really i would just like him to retire.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Like I posted in another thread, if Pavlik takes this fight then I will lose all respect for him, its plain fukin garbage
    Wow.... I have to say... I don't get this at all.

    It's "garbage" for Pavlik to fight an opponent who is one of the most accomplished middleweight champs in history, still one of the top 10 PFP fighters in the sport, and who just had a very competitive fight against a guy (Calzaghe) who some think is the #1 PFP fighter in the sport? That's garbage?
    He proved beyond a shadow of a doubt 3 years ago that he cant hang with young athletic fighter in his prime... So tell me the relevance of this fight again?
    The relevance of this fight is that Pavlik needs an opponent for the fall before he eventually fights Abraham in 2009. If someone can come up with an opponent who has more cache than Hopkins, then I'd love to hear it.

    For those saying, 'he should fight Abraham!".. well, you're ignoring reality. That fight isn't happening until 2009. Pavlik could take the easy route and fight in the fall against a Lockett-esque stiff. If he's willing instead to risk it in the fall against a cagey accomplished fighter like Hopkins while waiting for Abraham, then more power to him.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Im not sure why people would lose respect for Pavlik taking this fight.

    Hopkins has just beat Wright, Tarver and lost a close dec to Calzaghe at Lightheavyweight.

    If Hopkins vs Pavlik could get made at 168lbs i think it would be worth watching and a pickem imo, tbh it makes a hell of a lot more sence than Mora or Williams.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Like I posted in another thread, if Pavlik takes this fight then I will lose all respect for him, its plain fukin garbage

    Pavlik should be fighting Abraham to lock down the MW division, and people were pissed at Mayweather for doing this kind of thing
    I cannot see the Pavlik Abraham fight happening anytime soon. Maybe way far down the road.

    Abraham has no name here. Pavlik is not a big name himself. You know both camps will want 10's of millions to accept the fight and no promoter will risk losing that much of his shirt for a superfight between two unknown champions. With Abraham's promoter's and some of their shady work, there is no way pavlik would fight in Germany either.

    This fight has a bigger chance of never happening than happening.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Like I posted in another thread, if Pavlik takes this fight then I will lose all respect for him, its plain fukin garbage

    Pavlik should be fighting Abraham to lock down the MW division, and people were pissed at Mayweather for doing this kind of thing:rolleyes
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    Abraham has to fight a mandatory which delays a fight with him and Kelly. Williams and Wright are out-pricing themselves when Pavlik is the draw right now. Pavlik isn't making excuses or trying to manipulate the game. He is just sitting back waiting for his promoter to pick the fights for him. If any one thinks that Pavlik is scared to fight anyone or wants to avoid certain fighters, that is def not the case. I completely believe he is no way near afraid to fight anyone.

    Mayweather was in a different boat. With people like Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Williams, Berto in his weight division, it shouldn't have been hard to set up a fight with at least one of them. Instead Floyd PERSONALLY CHOSE to fight a part-time Oscar De La Hoya and a much smaller Ricky Hatton. This isn't close to Pavlik's situation.

    Pavlik is just trying to keep active. I can see why he could possibly get criticized. If you could just see for a moment who his potential fights can be against, they just have other issues that prevent it from happening.

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Wow.... I have to say... I don't get this at all.

    It's "garbage" for Pavlik to fight an opponent who is one of the most accomplished middleweight champs in history, still one of the top 10 PFP fighters in the sport, and who just had a very competitive fight against a guy (Calzaghe) who some think is the #1 PFP fighter in the sport? That's garbage?
    He proved beyond a shadow of a doubt 3 years ago that he cant hang with young athletic fighter in his prime... So tell me the relevance of this fight again?
    The relevance of this fight is that Pavlik needs an opponent for the fall before he eventually fights Abraham in 2009. If someone can come up with an opponent who has more cache than Hopkins, then I'd love to hear it.

    For those saying, 'he should fight Abraham!".. well, you're ignoring reality. That fight isn't happening until 2009. Pavlik could take the easy route and fight in the fall against a Lockett-esque stiff. If he's willing instead to risk it in the fall against a cagey accomplished fighter like Hopkins while waiting for Abraham, then more power to him.
    I'm with Pea here. I'm just glad he's willing to stay active when people should be the one's chasing him not the other way around.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Wow.... I have to say... I don't get this at all.

    It's "garbage" for Pavlik to fight an opponent who is one of the most accomplished middleweight champs in history, still one of the top 10 PFP fighters in the sport, and who just had a very competitive fight against a guy (Calzaghe) who some think is the #1 PFP fighter in the sport? That's garbage?
    He proved beyond a shadow of a doubt 3 years ago that he cant hang with young athletic fighter in his prime... So tell me the relevance of this fight again?
    The relevance of this fight is that Pavlik needs an opponent for the fall before he eventually fights Abraham in 2009. If someone can come up with an opponent who has more cache than Hopkins, then I'd love to hear it.

    For those saying, 'he should fight Abraham!".. well, you're ignoring reality. That fight isn't happening until 2009. Pavlik could take the easy route and fight in the fall against a Lockett-esque stiff. If he's willing instead to risk it in the fall against a cagey accomplished fighter like Hopkins while waiting for Abraham, then more power to him.
    So in the meantime he cant go up to 168? there are plenty of decent guys, I mean all joking aside I rather see him fight Carl Froch just because the fight will have some explosive quality to it, but not a old boring, hit and old throwing 5 punches around and 2 are legal type fight... No thank you I rather watch him fight a LIVE opponent not a slipping 45 year old fighter

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Like I posted in another thread, if Pavlik takes this fight then I will lose all respect for him, its plain fukin garbage

    Pavlik should be fighting Abraham to lock down the MW division, and people were pissed at Mayweather for doing this kind of thing
    What are you on about JT? Lose all respect for him? Come on that's garbage, Abraham has a mandatory that he's honoring against Marquez otherwise you would have heard his name mentioned a long time ago.

    This wouldn't be a bad fight, well it would be a bad fight in the ring, but for Pavlik it's not bad. He wouldn't look good because like mentioned, I think Hopkins could be in a wheelchair and still manage to eek out 5 rounds. But I do think Pavlik would win.

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