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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe???????

    Quote Originally Posted by tysonbruno View Post
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    Calzaghe is decent but like Hopkins he didn't take many chances with his career when there were BIG fights to be fought outside of 168.

    If you're Calzaghe you go to the US to fight Roy Jones Jr. at 175 earlier because #1 RJJ was the #1 pound for pound fighter in the world and #2 he was one of the most popular fighters in the world.

    If he beat RJJ in like 1998-2000 then hell the sky is the limit but if he beats him now he does NOTHING for his legacy but if he loses then he shows he really was a protected fighter...Kessler is good but was still green when he fought Joe much like Jeff Lacy was although Mikkel had better fundamentals.

    Calzaghe said neither Hopkins nor Jones wanted to fight him, in Hopkins case we know this to be true with Jones we can only assume it to be true.

    Look at the guys Roy was fighting 1998-2002 why would you take the risk in fighting Calzaghe who at the time held nothing when you could beat up on cans for the same?

    Facts are Calzaghe was not known in the US HBO would not go for it and he also had nothing for Jones or Hopkins to fight for no name no marketability nothing.

    That of course changed when Joe beat Lacy because he was introduced to a US audience in a big way and immediatly drew attention from both Showtime and HBO who prior had never shown a Calzaghe fight live.

    As for Kessler being green the guy was a great amature won two world titles and had 39 fights, if thats green in a Chinaman.
    Well if Calzaghe says he tried to make a fight with Hopkins and Jones years ago it must be true
    Just like he said his next fight was the winner between Pavlik and Taylor. I can get you the video of him saying it.

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    Calzaghe said neither Hopkins nor Jones wanted to fight him, in Hopkins case we know this to be true with Jones we can only assume it to be true.

    Look at the guys Roy was fighting 1998-2002 why would you take the risk in fighting Calzaghe who at the time held nothing when you could beat up on cans for the same?

    Facts are Calzaghe was not known in the US HBO would not go for it and he also had nothing for Jones or Hopkins to fight for no name no marketability nothing.

    That of course changed when Joe beat Lacy because he was introduced to a US audience in a big way and immediatly drew attention from both Showtime and HBO who prior had never shown a Calzaghe fight live.

    As for Kessler being green the guy was a great amature won two world titles and had 39 fights, if thats green in a Chinaman.
    Well if Calzaghe says he tried to make a fight with Hopkins and Jones years ago it must be true
    Just like he said his next fight was the winner between Pavlik and Taylor. I can get you the video of him saying it.

    He did say that but things change quickly in boxing and money talks.

    Pavliks time will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
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    Well if Calzaghe says he tried to make a fight with Hopkins and Jones years ago it must be true
    Just like he said his next fight was the winner between Pavlik and Taylor. I can get you the video of him saying it.

    He did say that but things change quickly in boxing and money talks.

    Pavliks time will come.
    And when Pavliks time comes he will knock Calzaghe spark out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tysonbruno View Post
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    Just like he said his next fight was the winner between Pavlik and Taylor. I can get you the video of him saying it.

    He did say that but things change quickly in boxing and money talks.

    Pavliks time will come.
    And when Pavliks time comes he will knock Calzaghe spark out.

    Not a chance.

    Heard it all before, Lacy is gonna knock him out, Kessler is gonna knock him out. Didnt happen and they are bigger punchers real 168lb fighters and in Kesslers case a league above Mr 1,2.

    He would kill Carl Froch though.

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    Yup, ol man Johnson couldnt put a dent in Sheika and lost right before Joe battered him and stopped him in the 5th

    That hardly sounds like a dangerous opponent, only if you have a glass jaw like Jones though

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe???????

    [QUOTE=Markusdarkus;562961][quote=tysonbruno;562960]
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    He would kill Carl Froch though.
    I laugh at Calzaghe fans - never in defeat has someone's star risen like Kessler's. It's quite ridiculous really.

    Kessler did nothing in his fight with Joe. Sure got lucky with about 3 shots in the 4th round, but other than that he was dreadful. Considering the excitement and build up surrounding the event i have never been so disappointed in my life.

    Against the completely unheralded Sartison, he nearly got his head caved in during the opening round. So much for the Big Bear preparation.

    Every time Kessler throws that left jab he draws it back low. He will get knocked out by a puncher when he finally decides to fight one, because so far he hasn't.

    Now Hopkins, that was TV gold. Watching Joe getting bounced off the canvas and lead around the ring by the old master was quite amusing. The old fella gave him a split loss in my eyes. Even in defeat, at his age he proved he was the bigger man.

    So in closing, Calzaghe has ducked Geln Johnson a bunch of times, has been bounced off the canvas three times (once by a guy ranked 60th in Salem) has held the least prestigious belt in the division, barely travelled for over a decade, has two questionable wins over Reid and Hopkins, is fighting a washed-up (his own words) Roy Jones and has 7 points wins from his last 8.... and i did i mention he is dull to watch and even duller to listen too ?

    Im completly with the author on this topic.

    And surprise surprise... the owner of the Ring magazine and compliler of the Ring ratings... is also gonna be his promoter too. Mmmmmmmm.

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    Diddums

    You have alot on your plate

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe???????

    [quote=Clanger;562971][quote=Markusdarkus;562961]
    Quote Originally Posted by tysonbruno View Post

    I laugh at Calzaghe fans - never in defeat has someone's star risen like Kessler's. It's quite ridiculous really.

    Kessler did nothing in his fight with Joe. Sure got lucky with about 3 shots in the 4th round, but other than that he was dreadful. Considering the excitement and build up surrounding the event i have never been so disappointed in my life.

    Against the completely unheralded Sartison, he nearly got his head caved in during the opening round. So much for the Big Bear preparation.

    Every time Kessler throws that left jab he draws it back low. He will get knocked out by a puncher when he finally decides to fight one, because so far he hasn't.

    Now Hopkins, that was TV gold. Watching Joe getting bounced off the canvas and lead around the ring by the old master was quite amusing. The old fella gave him a split loss in my eyes. Even in defeat, at his age he proved he was the bigger man.

    So in closing, Calzaghe has ducked Geln Johnson a bunch of times, has been bounced off the canvas three times (once by a guy ranked 60th in Salem) has held the least prestigious belt in the division, barely travelled for over a decade, has two questionable wins over Reid and Hopkins, is fighting a washed-up (his own words) Roy Jones and has 7 points wins from his last 8.... and i did i mention he is dull to watch and even duller to listen too ?

    Im completly with the author on this topic.

    And surprise surprise... the owner of the Ring magazine and compliler of the Ring ratings... is also gonna be his promoter too. Mmmmmmmm.

    Firstly i love it when Froch fans blast any fighter the guy has fought more bums than Tye Fields.

    Secondly i was referring to Kelly Pavlik beating Froak not Mikkel Kessler.

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