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    Default Re: WNF Thread Lacy vs. Mendoza

    lacy gotta try the waters and move up a weight. his vulnerable and seem to be affected by his weight. anyone know if he has weight issues?

    If only he can maintain a great stamina, his speed should be outclassing guys like mendoza. Too bad he just fights in burst.

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    Lacy walks around at about 200 pounds and you can see he is cut to absolute shreds. He trains like an animal for long hours, he's never been hurt like that, I don't know what it would do but I think a move up in weight is in order.

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    Lacy needs to move to light heavy. It helped Cotto
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryBoy View Post
    Lacy needs to move to light heavy. It helped Cotto
    Lol....It worked wonders for Chris Byrd also

    Honestly,Lacy was "reacting" bad to some shots.His Legs/feet were slow and he looked faded.Mendoza should not have shined like this against the # 5 in the ranks.

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    Come on guys lets be honest here a move up in weight will do NOTHING for Lacy if he doesn't sure up his fundamental defense. I learned one thing tonight and that's Lacy IS at the level of Mendoza and is not an elite fighter. Lacy is the absolute definition of a one-dimensional puncher which is great when your knocking guys out, but then what? If they outgun you, then what.

    I had 95-95 tonight and I feel generous about that. Also Lacy looked pretty solid in the first round, but after that there was a noticable decrease in handspeed. Not impressed at all. Sorry JT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Come on guys lets be honest here a move up in weight will do NOTHING for Lacy if he doesn't sure up his fundamental defense. I learned one thing tonight and that's Lacy IS at the level of Mendoza and is not an elite fighter. Lacy is the absolute definition of a one-dimensional puncher which is great when your knocking guys out, but then what? If they outgun you, then what.

    I had 95-95 tonight and I feel generous about that. Also Lacy looked pretty solid in the first round, but after that there was a noticable decrease in handspeed. Not impressed at all. Sorry JT.

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    Holyfield vs. Qawi 2 on here.....somethings just do not stack up to the original .Damn,and a slim Randy Neuman

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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Come on guys lets be honest here a move up in weight will do NOTHING for Lacy if he doesn't sure up his fundamental defense. I learned one thing tonight and that's Lacy IS at the level of Mendoza and is not an elite fighter. Lacy is the absolute definition of a one-dimensional puncher which is great when your knocking guys out, but then what? If they outgun you, then what.

    I had 95-95 tonight and I feel generous about that. Also Lacy looked pretty solid in the first round, but after that there was a noticable decrease in handspeed. Not impressed at all. Sorry JT.
    I thought he looked lackluster and lethargic and his punch resistence was off... Lacy is known to have a granite chin and decent stamina.. I also think Mendoza got away with tons of fouls... I mean when has over hand karate chops ever been legal especially to the back of the head... I counted over 25 of them... Not to mention a 3 punch combo to Lacys nuts when he buzzed Epi.Then earlier Mendoza was clearly dropped with the ropes holding him up he ricoched off of Lacy then hit the ground and it was ruled a slip and Mendoza was cleary warned over 6x for holding... Not saying these things would have made Lacy look better but it would have a tall order for anyone to handle..

    Lacy's defense wasnt as bad as the past, he was slipping punches and moving his head.. Lacy got caught on the inside because he wasnt working as hard as he usually does... I think he is weight drained and suited for 175 before he figures out a permanent plan.. He has been knocked down to a B fighter these days which seem weird because he only has one loss on his record, but none the less if he continues like this he will get brutally taken out by someone who is a sharper puncher(Jermain Taylor)

    2 things are for sure

    1) he looked sharper and punched with more conviction in this fight then he did against Manferdo

    2)This guy is a warrior and literally willed his way to a victory last nite

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Come on guys lets be honest here a move up in weight will do NOTHING for Lacy if he doesn't sure up his fundamental defense. I learned one thing tonight and that's Lacy IS at the level of Mendoza and is not an elite fighter. Lacy is the absolute definition of a one-dimensional puncher which is great when your knocking guys out, but then what? If they outgun you, then what.

    I had 95-95 tonight and I feel generous about that. Also Lacy looked pretty solid in the first round, but after that there was a noticable decrease in handspeed. Not impressed at all. Sorry JT.
    I thought he looked lackluster and lethargic and his punch resistence was off... Lacy is known to have a granite chin and decent stamina.. I also think Mendoza got away with tons of fouls... I mean when has over hand karate chops ever been legal especially to the back of the head... I counted over 25 of them... Not to mention a 3 punch combo to Lacys nuts when he buzzed Epi.Then earlier Mendoza was clearly dropped with the ropes holding him up he ricoched off of Lacy then hit the ground and it was ruled a slip and Mendoza was cleary warned over 6x for holding... Not saying these things would have made Lacy look better but it would have a tall order for anyone to handle..

    Lacy's defense wasnt as bad as the past, he was slipping punches and moving his head.. Lacy got caught on the inside because he wasnt working as hard as he usually does... I think he is weight drained and suited for 175 before he figures out a permanent plan.. He has been knocked down to a B fighter these days which seem weird because he only has one loss on his record, but none the less if he continues like this he will get brutally taken out by someone who is a sharper puncher(Jermain Taylor)

    2 things are for sure

    1) he looked sharper and punched with more conviction in this fight then he did against Manferdo

    2)This guy is a warrior and literally willed his way to a victory last nite

    The question I want to ask you JT is do you think Lacy would have survived if he didn't tackle Mendoza, that was intentional no doubt, he said so himself in the post fight interview. And you can make all the excuses you want to for Lacy, but there is one thing elite fighters do that I have never seen Lacy do and that is ADAPT. Was it a dirty fight absolutely, but no more dirty than Bika vs Calzaghe and Calzaghe adjusted to dominate Bika. No more dirty than Cotto vs. Urkal but Cotto adjusted to dominate Oktay. Lacy has heart I won't take that away from him, but he doesn't have the skill to be considered elite.
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    I ain't seen the fight, but it seems Lacy done shit and shouldn't have got the win. Same as in the Tsypko fight. Seems Lacy is done if he can only manage MD against Mendoza. Jeff can have the warrior like attitiude all year round, but if he ain't got the skills, it don't matter. If he fights JT he will get purely smoked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Come on guys lets be honest here a move up in weight will do NOTHING for Lacy if he doesn't sure up his fundamental defense. I learned one thing tonight and that's Lacy IS at the level of Mendoza and is not an elite fighter. Lacy is the absolute definition of a one-dimensional puncher which is great when your knocking guys out, but then what? If they outgun you, then what.

    I had 95-95 tonight and I feel generous about that. Also Lacy looked pretty solid in the first round, but after that there was a noticable decrease in handspeed. Not impressed at all. Sorry JT.
    I thought he looked lackluster and lethargic and his punch resistence was off... Lacy is known to have a granite chin and decent stamina.. I also think Mendoza got away with tons of fouls... I mean when has over hand karate chops ever been legal especially to the back of the head... I counted over 25 of them... Not to mention a 3 punch combo to Lacys nuts when he buzzed Epi.Then earlier Mendoza was clearly dropped with the ropes holding him up he ricoched off of Lacy then hit the ground and it was ruled a slip and Mendoza was cleary warned over 6x for holding... Not saying these things would have made Lacy look better but it would have a tall order for anyone to handle..

    Lacy's defense wasnt as bad as the past, he was slipping punches and moving his head.. Lacy got caught on the inside because he wasnt working as hard as he usually does... I think he is weight drained and suited for 175 before he figures out a permanent plan.. He has been knocked down to a B fighter these days which seem weird because he only has one loss on his record, but none the less if he continues like this he will get brutally taken out by someone who is a sharper puncher(Jermain Taylor)

    2 things are for sure

    1) he looked sharper and punched with more conviction in this fight then he did against Manferdo

    2)This guy is a warrior and literally willed his way to a victory last nite

    The question I want to ask you JT is do you think Lacy would have survived if he didn't tackle Mendoza, that was intentional no doubt, he said so himself in the post fight interview. And you can make all the excuses you want to for Lacy, but there is one thing elite fighters do that I have never seen Lacy do and that is ADAPT. Was it a dirty fight absolutely, but no more dirty than Bika vs Calzaghe and Calzaghe adjusted to dominate Bika. No more dirty than Cotto vs. Urkal but Cotto adjusted to dominate Oktay. Lacy has heart I won't take that away from him, but he doesn't have the skill to be considered elite.
    I'm sorry Greg maybe I missed something in my post but I dont see 1 excuse as a matter of fact if you looked at the bold letters you'll see my critisim and reality.. Just because I didnt call him shit dosent mean I made an excuse for him.... Not to mention the guy only has one loss on his record and didnt get a gift last night

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