WNF Thread Lacy vs. Mendoza

[CountryBoy]

Was he saying he tackled Mendoza on purpose.......LOL

LOL, at least he admitted it. If this was the fight to show that Lacy was back, it failed miserably. Since the Calzaghe fight Lacy has done nothing but struggle.

Yep Lacy's coming out fight was a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id3nik5Rldw

[No Contest]

Was expecting more, don't know if it was from that early shot, but he was off balance alot. Mendoza was beating him to the punch. I thought Lacy edged it but barely. Both got a lil dirty but it was a great fight to watch, doesn't do too much for Lacy though. A Taylor fight is still on the horizon, Taylor is still a question mark at super middle power wise. I would give it to Taylor because he seems way quicker and would counter and jab all night on Lacy.

[LEGION]

Was he saying he tackled Mendoza on purpose.......LOL

LOL, at least he admitted it. If this was the fight to show that Lacy was back, it failed miserably. Since the Calzaghe fight Lacy has done nothing but struggle.

I think it was a good "win" for him either way. He needs to go and watch some film on that fight and see all the dumb sh#t he was doing. It's better than a loss, but I still don't see what kind of impact he could possibly make with any guys in this division. I wouldn't be surprised to see him and Miranda fight before the year is out.

[Julius Rain]

lacy gotta try the waters and move up a weight. his vulnerable and seem to be affected by his weight. anyone know if he has weight issues?

If only he can maintain a great stamina, his speed should be outclassing guys like mendoza. Too bad he just fights in burst.

[amat]

Lacy walks around at about 200 pounds and you can see he is cut to absolute shreds. He trains like an animal for long hours, he's never been hurt like that, I don't know what it would do but I think a move up in weight is in order.

[CountryBoy]

Lacy needs to move to light heavy. It helped Cotto

[Spicoli]

Lacy needs to move to light heavy. It helped Cotto

Lol....It worked wonders for Chris Byrd also

Honestly,Lacy was "reacting" bad to some shots.His Legs/feet were slow and he looked faded.Mendoza should not have shined like this against the # 5 in the ranks.

[CutMeMick]

I wonder if Taylor-Lacy still happens? Don't know who I would like to see Lacy fight at this moment to tell the truth. I hope he's not to stubborn and knows what to improve on. If he is going to continue on, resurrect the jab, and maybe move to 175? He hasn't fought at a brisk, consistent pace in a long time and you saw he had bursts of great speed even right up to the end but also a lot of lulling along, maybe it's time to let the ship sail on 168? He's a huge muscle bound guy, he got hurt tonight like he's never been hurt in his career, even by a jab on one occasion. You have to wonder how much is that due to weight.

amat as I started to read your comment I had to stop when I came across "I hope he's not stubborn and knows what to improve on"

I'm sorry man I know you a fan but at this point amat I don't think there's anything he can do to improve and I really mean that. I know your probably gonna get all analitical here but wasn't he suppose be new and improved since the Tsypko II fight?
He looks good for a round or two but never the whole way through.
I just feel that at this point he is who he is and he fights just the same (minor changes here and there but you still see the same plan. Which is landing the big bomb) way he fought yrs. back prior to the Joe fight.

Lacy vs. Miranda sounds and looks very interesting to me..
Lacy vs. Andrade
Lacy vs. Green
Lacy vs. Bika

[killersheep]

Come on guys lets be honest here a move up in weight will do NOTHING for Lacy if he doesn't sure up his fundamental defense. I learned one thing tonight and that's Lacy IS at the level of Mendoza and is not an elite fighter. Lacy is the absolute definition of a one-dimensional puncher which is great when your knocking guys out, but then what? If they outgun you, then what.

I had 95-95 tonight and I feel generous about that. Also Lacy looked pretty solid in the first round, but after that there was a noticable decrease in handspeed. Not impressed at all. Sorry JT.

[CountryBoy]

Come on guys lets be honest here a move up in weight will do NOTHING for Lacy if he doesn't sure up his fundamental defense. I learned one thing tonight and that's Lacy IS at the level of Mendoza and is not an elite fighter. Lacy is the absolute definition of a one-dimensional puncher which is great when your knocking guys out, but then what? If they outgun you, then what.

I had 95-95 tonight and I feel generous about that. Also Lacy looked pretty solid in the first round, but after that there was a noticable decrease in handspeed. Not impressed at all. Sorry JT.

He can't get any worse

[amat]

I wonder if Taylor-Lacy still happens? Don't know who I would like to see Lacy fight at this moment to tell the truth. I hope he's not to stubborn and knows what to improve on. If he is going to continue on, resurrect the jab, and maybe move to 175? He hasn't fought at a brisk, consistent pace in a long time and you saw he had bursts of great speed even right up to the end but also a lot of lulling along, maybe it's time to let the ship sail on 168? He's a huge muscle bound guy, he got hurt tonight like he's never been hurt in his career, even by a jab on one occasion. You have to wonder how much is that due to weight.

amat as I started to read your comment I had to stop when I came across "I hope he's not stubborn and knows what to improve on"

I'm sorry man I know you a fan but at this point amat I don't think there's anything he can do to improve and I really mean that. I know your probably gonna get all analitical here but wasn't he suppose be new and improved since the Tsypko II fight?
He looks good for a round or two but never the whole way through.
I just feel that at this point he is who he is and he fights just the same (minor changes here and there but you still see the same plan. Which is landing the big bomb) way he fought yrs. back prior to the Joe fight.

Lacy vs. Miranda sounds and looks very interesting to me..
Lacy vs. Andrade
Lacy vs. Green
Lacy vs. Bika

You don't think he can sure up the defense? Or bring a jab back? He has used the cage type defense before but now he tries to lean away from punches and slip them instead of just blocking them coming forward. Check out the Pemberton fight and look how he blocked punches. There are a ton of things he can improve on, things he's had in the past. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, I was nervous about this because I'm not delusional and I know that Lacy is fighting past his best right now. Usually fighters get progressively better technically overtime but there body just fails them. Well Lacy is fighting like he is fighting Syd Vanderpool again thinking his raw power is going to win over instead of fighting like he did Reid where he used his jab to cover ground or like Pemberton where he tried to block punches up top.

There's no reason why he couldn't do those things anymore it just takes not being so stubborn.

[Spicoli]

Holyfield vs. Qawi 2 on here.....somethings just do not stack up to the original .Damn,and a slim Randy Neuman

[CutMeMick]

I wonder if Taylor-Lacy still happens? Don't know who I would like to see Lacy fight at this moment to tell the truth. I hope he's not to stubborn and knows what to improve on. If he is going to continue on, resurrect the jab, and maybe move to 175? He hasn't fought at a brisk, consistent pace in a long time and you saw he had bursts of great speed even right up to the end but also a lot of lulling along, maybe it's time to let the ship sail on 168? He's a huge muscle bound guy, he got hurt tonight like he's never been hurt in his career, even by a jab on one occasion. You have to wonder how much is that due to weight.

amat as I started to read your comment I had to stop when I came across "I hope he's not stubborn and knows what to improve on"

I'm sorry man I know you a fan but at this point amat I don't think there's anything he can do to improve and I really mean that. I know your probably gonna get all analitical here but wasn't he suppose be new and improved since the Tsypko II fight?
He looks good for a round or two but never the whole way through.
I just feel that at this point he is who he is and he fights just the same (minor changes here and there but you still see the same plan. Which is landing the big bomb) way he fought yrs. back prior to the Joe fight.

Lacy vs. Miranda sounds and looks very interesting to me..
Lacy vs. Andrade
Lacy vs. Green
Lacy vs. Bika

You don't think he can sure up the defense? Or bring a jab back? He has used the cage type defense before but now he tries to lean away from punches and slip them instead of just blocking them coming forward. Check out the Pemberton fight and look how he blocked punches. There are a ton of things he can improve on, things he's had in the past. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, I was nervous about this because I'm not delusional and I know that Lacy is fighting past his best right now. Usually fighters get progressively better technically overtime but there body just fails them. Well Lacy is fighting like he is fighting Syd Vanderpool again thinking his raw power is going to win over instead of fighting like he did Reid where he used his jab to cover ground or like Pemberton where he tried to block punches up top.

There's no reason why he couldn't do those things anymore it just takes not being so stubborn.

Whether it's stubborness or he just can't do it.
I just feel he wont he might want to but his body and mind steer him another way. He's tried before and as I said he starts off good but just falls back into the same fight.
I just don't think he can do it, he's got too much fight in him to try and change it now.

[amat]

I think he can do it. Surely it would be easier to block punches then it would to try to slip them especially when you have arms as big as his. He's implemented it sucessfully in the past I think it's just the fact that he's stubborn and he is. I'll tell you one thing he better realize he just got a MD against Epifanio Mendoza and Jermain Taylor is about 4 steps above that. I don't know how I came up with 4, random number but I think it drives the point across.

[CutMeMick]

I think he can do it. Surely it would be easier to block punches then it would to try to slip them especially when you have arms as big as his. He's implemented it sucessfully in the past I think it's just the fact that he's stubborn and he is. I'll tell you one thing he better realize he just got a MD against Epifanio Mendoza and Jermain Taylor is about 4 steps above that. I don't know how I came up with 4, random number but I think it drives the point across.

point taken...

Don't worry I understood perfectly the meaning behind the 4 steps.