Does Cotto lack that concentration to be great?

[Fenster]

I can't see Cotto winning a rematch against Margarito. Cotto fought great. But he couldn't hurt him. That was the problem. I don't see how that would be any different in the rematch. Not only that but if they fought again Margarito will have the same advantage over Cotto that he had over Cintron. I can hurt you. But you can't hurt me. It's in Cotto's best interest to stay away from Margarito.

But if he improves his stamina he could box like he was in the first 6 rounds for the whole fight.

I don't think it was a stamina issue. I think it's the pressure Margarito was putting him that became to much. People need to watch the fight understand that Cotto didn't decided to fight off the back foot. He didn't go the ropes by choice. Margarito forced him. I gave Cotto the first 5 rounds. But it was obvious from the second round that he couldn't hurt Margarito. But Margarito could. Cotto gassed out because of the pressure Margarito put on him. That won't change in the rematch. Cotto can't win cuz Cotto can't hurt him

Hmm.. as surprising as it is, and as much as I shouldn't - I agree.

That is exactly what I saw in the fight.

[Kel]

I don't think it was a stamina issue. I think it's the pressure Margarito was putting him that became to much. People need to watch the fight understand that Cotto didn't decided to fight off the back foot. He didn't go the ropes by choice. Margarito forced him. I gave Cotto the first 5 rounds. But it was obvious from the second round that he couldn't hurt Margarito. But Margarito could. Cotto gassed out because of the pressure Margarito put on him. That won't change in the rematch. Cotto can't win cuz Cotto can't hurt him

Do you think Williams hurt Margarito?

No. He out worked him

Ok I get ya now

[Taeth]

cotto didnt lose because he lacked concentration, he lost because he tried to fight a style he wasn't conditioned to handle. he's never had to use his legs that much. EVER. and he could have sparred all day with a focus on movement, but no way in hell was he all of sudden going to have world class movement in his first fight with that strategy. he needs to work on stamina or get better infighting defense. or he'll never be able to handle a fighter that can take a punch and pressure.

What his fights with Abduallaev and Ndou he fought both fights off the ropes, and using movement, but he seemed to throw more punches in both those fights.

[Taeth]

I rewatched this fight, with a clearer head a fresh perspective. I couldn't help but feel that Cotto really missed a game plan of working away on Margo's body...until...I rewatched it.

Tony made it a point to protect his body at the cost of absorbing numerous head shots. He obviously IMO did this on purpose. It is hard to fathom a person have that much faith in their ability to take damaging shots to the head, instead of chancing being hurt by body shots. But that is what he did. And he did going forward the whole time.

That has to be scary. Throwing everything you have at a fighters head because it is open for you, countering with beautiful combos, again and again, moving laterally to make it happen..but still, forward he comes.

I changed my mind regarding Cotto missing the boat on the body shots. The option just wasn't there for him.

What Cotto needed to is not go backwards the whole time, I am thinking of Duran fighting a Margarito type fighter, he would get right on the inside where his shorter reach would work to his advantage, if Cotto got in close there is no way Margarito would be able to get effective punches off, and Cotto having a lower center of gravity, being hte same size as Margarito in every other way would have an advantage in power in terms of who would be able to move who around, its basic physics, that a lower object has better leverage to move another object even a stronger object. If Cotto fought more like a Duran or Hatton he would tie Margarito up on the inside and land short hard punches where Margarito's longer arms wouldn't be able to get anything off.

[Violent Demise]

cotto didnt lose because he lacked concentration, he lost because he tried to fight a style he wasn't conditioned to handle. he's never had to use his legs that much. EVER. and he could have sparred all day with a focus on movement, but no way in hell was he all of sudden going to have world class movement in his first fight with that strategy. he needs to work on stamina or get better infighting defense. or he'll never be able to handle a fighter that can take a punch and pressure.

What his fights with Abduallaev and Ndou he fought both fights off the ropes, and using movement, but he seemed to throw more punches in both those fights.

He could hurt Abduallaev and Ndou. He couldn't hurt Margarito

[Taeth]

He never hurt Abduallaev, the fight was stopped because Abdullaev couldn't see out of his right eye after awhile.

And he hurt Ndou once in the first round, but after that Ndou took everything Cotto landed pretty easily.

[Violent Demise]

He never hurt Abduallaev, the fight was stopped because Abdullaev couldn't see out of his right eye after awhile.

And he hurt Ndou once in the first round, but after that Ndou took everything Cotto landed pretty easily.

None of those guys put the pressure on him like Margarito. Not only that it was obvious they couldn't hurt him. It was obvious Margarito could hurt him in the 2nd round.

[Spicoli]

He never hurt Abduallaev, the fight was stopped because Abdullaev couldn't see out of his right eye after awhile.

And he hurt Ndou once in the first round, but after that Ndou took everything Cotto landed pretty easily.

None of those guys put the pressure on him like Margarito. Not only that it was obvious they couldn't hurt him. It was obvious Margarito could hurt him in the 2nd round.

Plain & spoken....truth.That right to the side had him bent in the body & squatting on ropes around the 2 min mark in 2nd.Some are like "His chin was made of granite, OMG = win" but he never hit Cotto with his chin did he?

[Taeth]

He never hurt Abduallaev, the fight was stopped because Abdullaev couldn't see out of his right eye after awhile.

And he hurt Ndou once in the first round, but after that Ndou took everything Cotto landed pretty easily.

None of those guys put the pressure on him like Margarito. Not only that it was obvious they couldn't hurt him. It was obvious Margarito could hurt him in the 2nd round.

Watch those fights again, They were right there all the time, and Abdullaev could have hurt Cotto, but he used better defense then he did against Margarito. He was countering against Abduallaev and Ndou like he did early on against Tony, with combinations, and the led to him being able to go to the body, it led to him fighitng the way he wanted to.

[Violent Demise]

He never hurt Abduallaev, the fight was stopped because Abdullaev couldn't see out of his right eye after awhile.

And he hurt Ndou once in the first round, but after that Ndou took everything Cotto landed pretty easily.

None of those guys put the pressure on him like Margarito. Not only that it was obvious they couldn't hurt him. It was obvious Margarito could hurt him in the 2nd round.

Watch those fights again, They were right there all the time, and Abdullaev could have hurt Cotto, but he used better defense then he did against Margarito. He was countering against Abduallaev and Ndou like he did early on against Tony, with combinations, and the led to him being able to go to the body, it led to him fighitng the way he wanted to.

It's different when you have an elite fighter (Margarito) pressuring you instead of two B level fighters. Not mention the fact that Margarito was bigger and stronger. His pressure and punches take more out of you than Abduallaev and Ndou.

[Taeth]

Strength only matters if there is a lot of physical contact like in the Hatton-Mayweather fight or the Holyfield-Tyson fight. Cotto hardly ever clinches which means strength is almost never a factor. If a guy can take a punch and is right in front of him it doesn't matter who it is, it is still the same pressure. As for the punches I give Margarito one thing, and that is that he throws more punches. Everyone I've ever talked to says Abduallaev punches harder than Cotto who hit harder than Margarito, you do the math. Also except for the fact that Margarito can walk through any fistic bombardment known to man, and he can throw more punches than any other man alive in 12 rounds he isn't anything more than C- fighter, both Ndou and Abdullaev(an olympian) have far better technique than Margarito, they are way faster, and Cotto was weight drained at 140.

[CountryBoy]

I rooted for Margarito to knock out Cotto and it happen. But I think Cotto does not lack anything, He showed he had a beard and can box......It just was not his night

[Majesty]

But if he improves his stamina he could box like he was in the first 6 rounds for the whole fight.

I don't think it was a stamina issue. I think it's the pressure Margarito was putting him that became to much. People need to watch the fight understand that Cotto didn't decided to fight off the back foot. He didn't go the ropes by choice. Margarito forced him. I gave Cotto the first 5 rounds. But it was obvious from the second round that he couldn't hurt Margarito. But Margarito could. Cotto gassed out because of the pressure Margarito put on him. That won't change in the rematch. Cotto can't win cuz Cotto can't hurt him

Do you think Williams hurt Margarito?

Alright it comes down to style.

Cotto's style and the reason he wins fights is because he can walk down his opponents and makes them submit to his pressure.

And opponents he hasnt been able to do that against he didnt look his best, Ndou for example.

Cotto's style looks best and is most effective when he can impose his will and walk down whoever he is fighting.

The thing is he couldnt walk down Margarito yet Margarito could hurt him and walk him down. Margarito took everything about Miguel's style and still had more to hurt him so there really is nothing Cotto can do differently in a rematch because his style is to walk you down, he can't walk down Margarito so he isn't going to beat him.


As far as Paul Williams go it isnt in his style to walk down someone so whether he could hurt Margarito or not didn't matter because it isnt his style. His style is to outhustle and keep a high work rate which he can do without hurting you.

Miguel on the other hand needs to walk down his opponent and make them submit, he cant do it to margarito so there isnt anything he can do different.

[Majesty]

He never hurt Abduallaev, the fight was stopped because Abdullaev couldn't see out of his right eye after awhile.

And he hurt Ndou once in the first round, but after that Ndou took everything Cotto landed pretty easily.

None of those guys put the pressure on him like Margarito. Not only that it was obvious they couldn't hurt him. It was obvious Margarito could hurt him in the 2nd round.

Watch those fights again, They were right there all the time, and Abdullaev could have hurt Cotto, but he used better defense then he did against Margarito. He was countering against Abduallaev and Ndou like he did early on against Tony, with combinations, and the led to him being able to go to the body, it led to him fighitng the way he wanted to.

yeah but neither Abdullaev or Ndou could hurt him or impose their will on them. When Miguel was boxing he was being selective about it.

Margarito MADE HIM go into retreat.

If Miguel had stopped and tried to trade and even some of the times he tried to smother margarito's punches margarito threw uppercuts which hurt him.

There's really nothing Cotto can do to win besides fight the first 5 rounds the entire fight but Margarito put a lot of work into the body punches so that when Cotto slowed down Margarito got him. He took all the game plans of Cotto and never had to switch to a plan B but Cotto switched his gameplan and Margarito kept negating it after time. Miguel needs someone he can walk down or impose his will on eventually and take them into deep waters but this time he was being taken into deep waters and he couldn't deal with it because he's never really been taken into deep waters by someone who could hurt him or that he couldnt truly impose his will on with an iron chin and power like margarito and not only that but that also went to the body on him.

[Memphis]

I think Cotto to some degree fell into the same trap that David Haye does. He's used to having his punches take their toll on an opponant and when they dont they wonder why and have a collapse of concentration.

I think if they fought again but with Cotto knowing that no matter what he does he cant hurt him, he can win the fight. Knowing that from the outset he could work around, finding it out during a fight is a heartbreaker.