A definitive answer.....Kessler vs. Pavlik

[Markusdarkus]

Kessler is bigger, faster, stronger with much better footwork.

Mikkel Kessler would ruin Kelly Pavlik with fast flurries and wicked three, four punch in and out combos. Pavlik would not land much and take a beating a whooping.

[boxer1234]

Pavlik would knock him out

IMO Kessler's chin is untested, I also remember him getting hurt by a bodyshot when he fought Joe Calzaghe.

[Deanrw]

It is a tough one, but nobody really knows what Kessler can bring anymore. He rose up and got beat by Joe, but now seems content to go back and fight guys who are not even championship caliber. He really needs to step it up but is being held back by Palle and that stupid WBA jr. belt.

On that note, I would lean towards Kelly. Kelly does not look fancy, but he seems to go after guys that will challenge him instead of playing it safe(except for Lockett of course). He knows how to get the job done and is a much more rounded fighter than many people will give him credit for. He also seems to have that hunger, like Williams, to challenge anyone, even if they are not in his own weight class. That shows incredible confidence and will transfer itself to the ring.

[Plopeater]

This is one tough fight to call but I think that Kessler would just sneak it

[Mar]

Not sure who i would say is overall better, but i belive pavlik is better at what he does so i picked him. If they actually fought i don't know who i'd choose.

[Taeth]

Kessler is way better then Pavlik.

[GAME]

Kessler

Its a tough one but I think Kess may have the better boxing skills. Pav seems abit 1 dimensional in comparisson and Kess is bigger too .

[jangeorg]

[quote=Deanrw;576279] but now seems content to go back and fight guys who are not even championship caliber. quote]


so didt Pavlik after the taylor fight,fighting a bum like Gary Lockett and now he fighting a over the hill grandpa Bernard Hopkins

[Panadzzz]

Pavlik would ko kessler. Pavlik dominated a great boxer in taylor in the 1st and 2nd fight and what was the great neutralizer? It's his natural ko power. Imo pavlik is one of the heaviest hitter in his division and the whole of boxing as well and with just a simple 1-2, or if he pinned kess to the corner with his constant pressure, a ko or a tko is very much, much possible.Kessler's chin is yet tested so if this fight happens we'll see how pavlik's hands will do damage against kessler's chin..

[jangeorg]

Pavlik would ko kessler. Pavlik dominated a great boxer in taylor in the 1st and 2nd fight and what was the great neutralizer? It's his natural ko power. Imo pavlik is one of the heaviest hitter in his division and the whole of boxing as well and with just a simple 1-2, or if he pinned kess to the corner with his constant pressure, a ko or a tko is very much, much possible.Kessler's chin is yet tested so if this fight happens we'll see how pavlik's hands will do damage against kessler's chin..

Mikkel Kessler looked so powerful in the ring with Joe Calzaghe, and his boxing skills are underrated. His uppercut is beautiful and he's got a powerful right hand that will hurt the majority of SMW's.



Kelly Pavlik has the advantage in power and has proven thus far to have a pretty good chin, but I can see him systematically being broken down here. Kessler looked great at times vs Joe when he was countering him, and Joe wasn't coming at him half as much as Kelly will be, so he should be countering all night long. Pavlik has a lot of things in his favor, but his defence isn't one of them.

Kessler TKO11

[Deanrw]

[quote=jangeorg;576974]

but now seems content to go back and fight guys who are not even championship caliber. quote]


so didt Pavlik after the taylor fight,fighting a bum like Gary Lockett and now he fighting a over the hill grandpa Bernard Hopkins

If you read on in my post, I mentioned Lockett. Also that over the hill Hopkins, I would slightly favor to beat Pavlik and Kessler.

Not bad for an over the hill guy huh? Both Kessler and Pavlik have a style that someone like Hopkins can exploit. If you can take away Kessler and Pavlik's meat, their jab, they will struggle. Calzaghe squeaked through because he has more dimension to his game.

I think Pavlik's youth might carry him through against Hopkins, but it all depends on how he will deal with the adversity.

[southakron314]

Kessler is bigger, faster, stronger with much better footwork.

Mikkel Kessler would ruin Kelly Pavlik with fast flurries and wicked three, four punch in and out combos. Pavlik would not land much and take a beating a whooping.

Did Kelly Pavlik screw your woman or something. He do you get off saying Kessler is stronger. I think Pavlik is stronger than Kessler. Pavlik in my opinion hits harder than any one at 168 except perhaps Miranda. Pavlik is way better on defense and has a chin. His conditioning is better than Kesslers too. Pavlik has much greater cardio.

[Markusdarkus]

Kessler is bigger, faster, stronger with much better footwork.

Mikkel Kessler would ruin Kelly Pavlik with fast flurries and wicked three, four punch in and out combos. Pavlik would not land much and take a beating a whooping.

Did Kelly Pavlik screw your woman or something. He do you get off saying Kessler is stronger. I think Pavlik is stronger than Kessler. Pavlik in my opinion hits harder than any one at 168 except perhaps Miranda. Pavlik is way better on defense and has a chin. His conditioning is better than Kesslers too. Pavlik has much greater cardio.

"Where do you get off calling Kessler stronger. I think Pavlik is stronger" -- Its called an opinion just like yours.

Kessler is a huge SMW and the same height as Pavlik.

Id pick a good strong SMW over a big strong MW.

And its only Pavlik idiots that neg rep me you guys are very tetchy.

I think i will stop commenting on the guy this is getting beyond farce.

[ono]

Kessler is bigger, faster, stronger with much better footwork.

Mikkel Kessler would ruin Kelly Pavlik with fast flurries and wicked three, four punch in and out combos. Pavlik would not land much and take a beating a whooping.

Did Kelly Pavlik screw your woman or something. He do you get off saying Kessler is stronger. I think Pavlik is stronger than Kessler. Pavlik in my opinion hits harder than any one at 168 except perhaps Miranda. Pavlik is way better on defense and has a chin. His conditioning is better than Kesslers too. Pavlik has much greater cardio.

To be fair, he's been on his arse a few times...and almost out against Taylor.

That being said, i'd go for Kessler, but wouldn't be surprised if Pavlik ko'd him.

[Markusdarkus]

In all honesty i think Kesslers movement will win this fight.

He also has an edge on handspeed. Pavliks workrate will be an issue but i can also see Kesslers 4-5-6 punch salvos taking there toll on the flat footed KP.

The Kessler/Andrade fight was beautiful a real piece of art a schooling i could watch a 1,000x and not be bored.