DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!

[Plopeater]

Greed has it's hallucinogenic effect on people, can't believe PAC's handlers allowing this to happen

your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking

You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.

I don't think he needs any more leverage. The way he did a number on Diaz and with his rep he could get a good deal against any lightweight or super feather. And if he cleans up at 135 he would have a good chance at 140 then

[XaduBoxer]

your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking

You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.

I don't think he needs any more leverage. The way he did a number on Diaz and with his rep he could get a good deal against any lightweight or super feather. And if he cleans up at 135 he would have a good chance at 140 then

When I stated "remaining bigger fights", I mean against Hatton and probably PBF...

IF (big if) PAC can defeat DelaHoya in a more convincing way than what PBF did to Oscar, then PAC will have some leverage in calling out PBF from retirement and could probably install him as favorite against Hatton...

[Plopeater]

You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.

I don't think he needs any more leverage. The way he did a number on Diaz and with his rep he could get a good deal against any lightweight or super feather. And if he cleans up at 135 he would have a good chance at 140 then

When I stated "remaining bigger fights", I mean against Hatton and probably PBF...

IF (big if) PAC can defeat DelaHoya in a more convincing way than what PBF did to Oscar, then PAC will have some leverage in calling out PBF from retirement and could probably install him as favorite against Hatton...

If he did well against Casamayor, Campbell etc then and maybe even now I think he would have a chance against Hatton but it would be one tough fight.

As for PBF, he wouldn't stand a chance

[XaduBoxer]

Regarding gloves, the rule says it's either both of them will wear 10 oz. or 8 oz. gloves. Other than that will not be sanctioned for it's against the rules.

Hmmnn both conditions favors DelaHoya...

What Team PAC wants is 8 oz. gloves on PAC and 10 oz. gloves on DelaHoya which is against the rules...

[No Contest]

[XaduBoxer]

Let's see if Oscar will give in to PAC's demands and then it's clear that Oscar really wanted this fight very badly...

[Violent Demise]

Greed has it's hallucinogenic effect on people, can't believe PAC's handlers allowing this to happen

your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking

You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.

Pacquiao wants De La Hoya for the money. Nothing else. De La Hoya is no longer the fighter he once was. Everybody knows that. If it's about legacy for Pacquiao than why doesn't he try and set up a fight with Margarito or Cotto? A win over them would mean more than a win over a past his prime De La Hoya. Why not call them out? Cuz neither brings in the dollars like De La Hoya does. That's why. Pacquiao like every fighter out there bows down to the money. Anybody that says otherwise is a fukking idiot.

[XaduBoxer]

your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking

You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.

Pacquiao wants De La Hoya for the money. Nothing else. De La Hoya is no longer the fighter he once was. Everybody knows that. If it's about legacy for Pacquiao than why doesn't he try and set up a fight with Margarito or Cotto? A win over them would mean more than a win over a past his prime De La Hoya. Why not call them out? Cuz neither brings in the dollars like De La Hoya does. That's why. Pacquiao like every fighter out there bows down to the money. Anybody that says otherwise is a fukking idiot.

Of course when you fight Oscar, money is always a major factor but I think for PAC, money is just one of the factors. PAC likes to fight legends (Barrera, Morales) and Oscar is a boxing legend. He climbed weight division after weight division chasing these legends. Fighting and defeating a legend will enhance greatly your own legacy. Margarito or Cotto? Sorry but they're not legends yet.

In terms of legacy, PAC is in a win-win situation with this fight. IF (big if) he wins, his legacy will soar in all time high and he'll probably becomes boxing's most marketable fighter after Oscar retires. If he loses, nothing much will affect his already established legacy. Only idiots will turn down a DelaHoya fight.

[killersheep]

You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.

Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.

Pacquiao wants De La Hoya for the money. Nothing else. De La Hoya is no longer the fighter he once was. Everybody knows that. If it's about legacy for Pacquiao than why doesn't he try and set up a fight with Margarito or Cotto? A win over them would mean more than a win over a past his prime De La Hoya. Why not call them out? Cuz neither brings in the dollars like De La Hoya does. That's why. Pacquiao like every fighter out there bows down to the money. Anybody that says otherwise is a fukking idiot.

Of course when you fight Oscar, money is always a major factor but I think for PAC, money is just one of the factors. PAC likes to fight legends (Barrera, Morales) and Oscar is a boxing legend. He climbed weight division after weight division chasing these legends. Fighting and defeating a legend will enhance greatly your own legacy. Margarito or Cotto? Sorry but they're not legends yet.

In terms of legacy, PAC is in a win-win situation with this fight. IF (big if) he wins, his legacy will soar in all time high and he'll probably becomes boxing's most marketable fighter after Oscar retires. If he loses, nothing much will affect his already established legacy. Only idiots will turn down a DelaHoya fight.

Stop..............just stop, there is no legacy in beating a geriatric ODLH.

PAC wins- ODLH was over the hill.
ODLH wins - PAC was too small.

There are too many excuses for a loss before this fight is even made. Do you think PBF has a legacy because he beat Oscar? NO. People are complaining because he didn't unify a division, is this starting to sound familiar?

It's about the money and nothing else there is no justification for legacy in this fight, if he would have fought the Golden Boy 3 years ago it would have mattered for something, now it's just cash.

[XaduBoxer]

Of course when you fight Oscar, money is always a major factor but I think for PAC, money is just one of the factors. PAC likes to fight legends (Barrera, Morales) and Oscar is a boxing legend. He climbed weight division after weight division chasing these legends. Fighting and defeating a legend will enhance greatly your own legacy. Margarito or Cotto? Sorry but they're not legends yet.

In terms of legacy, PAC is in a win-win situation with this fight. IF (big if) he wins, his legacy will soar in all time high and he'll probably becomes boxing's most marketable fighter after Oscar retires. If he loses, nothing much will affect his already established legacy. Only idiots will turn down a DelaHoya fight.

Stop..............just stop, there is no legacy in beating a geriatric ODLH.

PAC wins- ODLH was over the hill.
ODLH wins - PAC was too small.

There are too many excuses for a loss before this fight is even made. Do you think PBF has a legacy because he beat Oscar? NO. People are complaining because he didn't unify a division, is this starting to sound familiar?

It's about the money and nothing else there is no justification for legacy in this fight, if he would have fought the Golden Boy 3 years ago it would have mattered for something, now it's just cash.

I can't understand you people... You're unbelievable...

First you're totally writing off PAC in this fight. You're saying that PAC has NO CHANCE AT ALL of winning this fight.

Then IF (big if) PAC does the impossible and defeats Oscar, you will not give him any credit since Oscar is already "old and shot"...

Oh my... I can't believeeeeeeee this...

[killersheep]

Of course when you fight Oscar, money is always a major factor but I think for PAC, money is just one of the factors. PAC likes to fight legends (Barrera, Morales) and Oscar is a boxing legend. He climbed weight division after weight division chasing these legends. Fighting and defeating a legend will enhance greatly your own legacy. Margarito or Cotto? Sorry but they're not legends yet.

In terms of legacy, PAC is in a win-win situation with this fight. IF (big if) he wins, his legacy will soar in all time high and he'll probably becomes boxing's most marketable fighter after Oscar retires. If he loses, nothing much will affect his already established legacy. Only idiots will turn down a DelaHoya fight.

Stop..............just stop, there is no legacy in beating a geriatric ODLH.

PAC wins- ODLH was over the hill.
ODLH wins - PAC was too small.

There are too many excuses for a loss before this fight is even made. Do you think PBF has a legacy because he beat Oscar? NO. People are complaining because he didn't unify a division, is this starting to sound familiar?

It's about the money and nothing else there is no justification for legacy in this fight, if he would have fought the Golden Boy 3 years ago it would have mattered for something, now it's just cash.

I can't understand you people... You're unbelievable...

First you're totally writing off PAC in this fight. You're saying that PAC has NO CHANCE AT ALL of winning this fight.

Then if PAC does the impossible and defeats Oscar, you will not give him any credit since Oscar is already "old and shot"...

I can't believeeeeeeee this...

What I can't believe is that you need 18 threads to make the same statements. C'mon man. Are you gonna say the ODLH is in his prime? Especially after the Forbes fight? I'm not a fan of either fighter, although I am entertained by both and because of you fanatics I am actually gonna root for ODLH just so I don't have to suffer any more of these threads. It's you I can't believe look up delusional in the dictionary you arguments for saying this will add to PAC's legacy is the first definition.

And yes ODLH is old and shot, his stamina sucks, his punches have slowed and his focus is much more easily swayed than ever before. All of those reasons are the only reason PAC has a chance because ODLH is NOT THE BOXER HE ONCE WAS, but because of his size I still say he wins.

[Spicoli]

Its a real shame when some of Pacs rabid fans and his camp feel the need to chase the ghost of Delahoya who is 2-4 (beat sturm my arse) over the last 5 years and is no where close to what he once was.

All the while Pac would do himself proud by Meeting and defeating his top fellow Champions and legit threats at his current weight zone,why follow in the shadow's after this absolute P.T Barnum-esq FARCE that will have no bearing or effect on the mass state of boxing Imo.You want a legacy,Unify a division,call out and defeat fellow Current Champs at there best in your new division!

It keeps being hyped up and brought back to "Pac is being over looked in this farce fight", when in all reality its the match up being overlooked because the majority of Boxing fans fully understand what this is and call it what it is.....B.S money grab. If either one thinks this will do anything to inhance they're respected Legacy,they and others are kidding themselves!

[XaduBoxer]

Stop..............just stop, there is no legacy in beating a geriatric ODLH.

PAC wins- ODLH was over the hill.
ODLH wins - PAC was too small.

There are too many excuses for a loss before this fight is even made. Do you think PBF has a legacy because he beat Oscar? NO. People are complaining because he didn't unify a division, is this starting to sound familiar?

It's about the money and nothing else there is no justification for legacy in this fight, if he would have fought the Golden Boy 3 years ago it would have mattered for something, now it's just cash.

I can't understand you people... You're unbelievable...

First you're totally writing off PAC in this fight. You're saying that PAC has NO CHANCE AT ALL of winning this fight.

Then if PAC does the impossible and defeats Oscar, you will not give him any credit since Oscar is already "old and shot"...

I can't believeeeeeeee this...

What I can't believe is that you need 18 threads to make the same statements. C'mon man. Are you gonna say the ODLH is in his prime? Especially after the Forbes fight? I'm not a fan of either fighter, although I am entertained by both and because of you fanatics I am actually gonna root for ODLH just so I don't have to suffer any more of these threads. It's you I can't believe look up delusional in the dictionary you arguments for saying this will add to PAC's legacy is the first definition.

And yes ODLH is old and shot, his stamina sucks, his punches have slowed and his focus is much more easily swayed than ever before. All of those reasons are the only reason PAC has a chance because ODLH is NOT THE BOXER HE ONCE WAS, but because of his size I still say he wins.

Good that you're giving PAC a chance (I give PAC 1% chance )

Oscar not in his prime anymore that's why PAC is so brave even with the massive advantages Oscar has on him. PAC believed his Coach Roach who said that "Oscar is slow and can't pull the trigger anymore".

PAC has a very slim chance in this fight but having that shot on another boxing legend is best for PAC at this point of his boxing career since most probably PAC will hang his gloves next year.

[killersheep]

I can't understand you people... You're unbelievable...

First you're totally writing off PAC in this fight. You're saying that PAC has NO CHANCE AT ALL of winning this fight.

Then if PAC does the impossible and defeats Oscar, you will not give him any credit since Oscar is already "old and shot"...

I can't believeeeeeeee this...

What I can't believe is that you need 18 threads to make the same statements. C'mon man. Are you gonna say the ODLH is in his prime? Especially after the Forbes fight? I'm not a fan of either fighter, although I am entertained by both and because of you fanatics I am actually gonna root for ODLH just so I don't have to suffer any more of these threads. It's you I can't believe look up delusional in the dictionary you arguments for saying this will add to PAC's legacy is the first definition.

And yes ODLH is old and shot, his stamina sucks, his punches have slowed and his focus is much more easily swayed than ever before. All of those reasons are the only reason PAC has a chance because ODLH is NOT THE BOXER HE ONCE WAS, but because of his size I still say he wins.

Good that you're giving PAC a chance (I give PAC 1% chance )

Oscar not in his prime anymore that's why PAC is so brave even with the massive advantages Oscar has on him. PAC believed his Coach Roach who said that "Oscar is slow and can't pull the trigger anymore".

PAC has a very slim chance in this fight but having that shot on another boxing legend is best for PAC at this point of his boxing career since most probably PAC will hang his gloves next year.

So he's planning on extending his legacy against a guy that is slow and can't pull the trigger anymore? Hmm failing to see why this is impressive.

[XaduBoxer]

What I can't believe is that you need 18 threads to make the same statements. C'mon man. Are you gonna say the ODLH is in his prime? Especially after the Forbes fight? I'm not a fan of either fighter, although I am entertained by both and because of you fanatics I am actually gonna root for ODLH just so I don't have to suffer any more of these threads. It's you I can't believe look up delusional in the dictionary you arguments for saying this will add to PAC's legacy is the first definition.

And yes ODLH is old and shot, his stamina sucks, his punches have slowed and his focus is much more easily swayed than ever before. All of those reasons are the only reason PAC has a chance because ODLH is NOT THE BOXER HE ONCE WAS, but because of his size I still say he wins.

Good that you're giving PAC a chance (I give PAC 1% chance )

Oscar not in his prime anymore that's why PAC is so brave even with the massive advantages Oscar has on him. PAC believed his Coach Roach who said that "Oscar is slow and can't pull the trigger anymore".

PAC has a very slim chance in this fight but having that shot on another boxing legend is best for PAC at this point of his boxing career since most probably PAC will hang his gloves next year.

So he's planning on extending his legacy against a guy that is slow and can't pull the trigger anymore? Hmm failing to see why this is impressive.

OK let's discuss Team PAC's "secret" plan... IF (big if) PAC defeats Oscar in a more convincing way (UD will do) than what PBF did to Oscar then PAC will be in excellent position to call out PBF from retirement. Ohhh that's a very BIG fight...

But if PAC loses to Oscar then PAC will just settle on another "old and shot" boxer in Hatton next year...

BTW this "secret" plan has been laid out and discussed I believe on another thread here...
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