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    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Say what you want about Oscar...but Pac is dillusional to think he will get 60/40 in his favor. I could personally care less about this matchup...so hopefully it wont happen and Pac can focus on taking care of business in the lower weight classes. These kind of fights show the ugly/greedy side of boxing. Neither of these fighters should be looking for this fight to happen. There are plenty of natural/great 147 pounders Oscar could/should be fighting. And Pac has plenty of great opponents at 130/135. But $$$ and publicity sometimes trumps all in this business.

    So Oscar is getting 70% and it's fair?


    Come on guys, let's put down our biases here. Pac is taking the greater risk.He's the smaller guy and he's doomed to be KOed in this fight. Pac deserves 35% at least.

    Pac doesn't need to promote this fight. Unlike Mayweather vs DLH, this fight is a publicity in itself.

    Boxing should be beyond nationality. True boxing fans don't care about nationality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Say what you want about Oscar...but Pac is dillusional to think he will get 60/40 in his favor. I could personally care less about this matchup...so hopefully it wont happen and Pac can focus on taking care of business in the lower weight classes. These kind of fights show the ugly/greedy side of boxing. Neither of these fighters should be looking for this fight to happen. There are plenty of natural/great 147 pounders Oscar could/should be fighting. And Pac has plenty of great opponents at 130/135. But $$$ and publicity sometimes trumps all in this business.

    So Oscar is getting 70% and it's fair?


    Come on guys, let's put down our biases here. Pac is taking the greater risk.He's the smaller guy and he's doomed to be KOed in this fight. Pac deserves 35% at least.

    Pac doesn't need to promote this fight. Unlike Mayweather vs DLH, this fight is a publicity in itself.

    Boxing should be beyond nationality. True boxing fans don't care about nationality.
    You see the numbers to Pac last PPV? That shows nobody really cares about Pac unless he's fighting another big name. Oscar can fight your mom and people will watch. He without a doubt deserves the bigger purse. And what the fukk is Pac even complaining about? That 30% is a career high purse. Take the money and fight. You ran your mouth. Now you going to biitch out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Say what you want about Oscar...but Pac is dillusional to think he will get 60/40 in his favor. I could personally care less about this matchup...so hopefully it wont happen and Pac can focus on taking care of business in the lower weight classes. These kind of fights show the ugly/greedy side of boxing. Neither of these fighters should be looking for this fight to happen. There are plenty of natural/great 147 pounders Oscar could/should be fighting. And Pac has plenty of great opponents at 130/135. But $$$ and publicity sometimes trumps all in this business.

    So Oscar is getting 70% and it's fair?



    Come on guys, let's put down our biases here. Pac is taking the greater risk.He's the smaller guy and he's doomed to be KOed in this fight. Pac deserves 35% at least.

    Pac doesn't need to promote this fight. Unlike Mayweather vs DLH, this fight is a publicity in itself.

    Boxing should be beyond nationality. True boxing fans don't care about nationality.
    You see the numbers to Pac last PPV? That shows nobody really cares about Pac unless he's fighting another big name. Oscar can fight your mom and people will watch. He without a doubt deserves the bigger purse. And what the fukk is Pac even complaining about? That 30% is a career high purse. Take the money and fight. You ran your mouth. Now you going to biitch out?
    Yeah. Have you seen it VD? The way you're claiming things clearly shows how bias and ignorant you are.


    We are talking about being fair here.We're not talking of absolute amounts. What would you feel if your favorite fighter "El Cepillo" fights Pac and be given 30% share after Pac loses against Morales (pac vs morales1... supposing we can go to back to that time)? Surely, you would not want that. Regardless of Pac's fame, you would want your fighter to get a decent share of the purse.

    How much more Pac vs DLH? Remember, Pac may get seriously hurt in this fight.

    Stop being a comedian and be a normal person once in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Say what you want about Oscar...but Pac is dillusional to think he will get 60/40 in his favor. I could personally care less about this matchup...so hopefully it wont happen and Pac can focus on taking care of business in the lower weight classes. These kind of fights show the ugly/greedy side of boxing. Neither of these fighters should be looking for this fight to happen. There are plenty of natural/great 147 pounders Oscar could/should be fighting. And Pac has plenty of great opponents at 130/135. But $$$ and publicity sometimes trumps all in this business.

    So Oscar is getting 70% and it's fair?


    Come on guys, let's put down our biases here. Pac is taking the greater risk.He's the smaller guy and he's doomed to be KOed in this fight. Pac deserves 35% at least.

    Pac doesn't need to promote this fight. Unlike Mayweather vs DLH, this fight is a publicity in itself.

    Boxing should be beyond nationality. True boxing fans don't care about nationality.
    You see the numbers to Pac last PPV? That shows nobody really cares about Pac unless he's fighting another big name. Oscar can fight your mom and people will watch. He without a doubt deserves the bigger purse. And what the fukk is Pac even complaining about? That 30% is a career high purse. Take the money and fight. You ran your mouth. Now you going to biitch out?
    umm which opponent do you think can make a fight against david diaz get better ppv numbers? you think oscar can?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post


    So Oscar is getting 70% and it's fair?


    Come on guys, let's put down our biases here. Pac is taking the greater risk.He's the smaller guy and he's doomed to be KOed in this fight. Pac deserves 35% at least.

    Pac doesn't need to promote this fight. Unlike Mayweather vs DLH, this fight is a publicity in itself.

    Boxing should be beyond nationality. True boxing fans don't care about nationality.
    You see the numbers to Pac last PPV? That shows nobody really cares about Pac unless he's fighting another big name. Oscar can fight your mom and people will watch. He without a doubt deserves the bigger purse. And what the fukk is Pac even complaining about? That 30% is a career high purse. Take the money and fight. You ran your mouth. Now you going to biitch out?
    umm which opponent do you think can make a fight against david diaz get better ppv numbers? you think oscar can?
    Do you know De La Hoya once sold out the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas with Patrick Charpentier as his opponent? It don't matter who Oscar fights. People will watch

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    The Boxing Herald Show
    Thu, 14 August 2008
    BREAKING NEWS REGARDING PACQUIAO-DE LA HOYA
    BoxingHerald.com was just informed by Manny Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach that negotiations for Pacquiao's fight with Oscar De La Hoya have NOT closed.
    Roach also stated that he "wouldn't want a dime" if Pacquiao loses to De La Hoya.
    Obviously, the LA based trainer wants the mega event to happen.


    Direct download: roach808a.MP3
    Category: podcasts -- posted at: 10:52 PM
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    I believe in Coach Freddie Roach, he sounds sincere and genuine in PAC's safety and welfare, but I still believe PAC will lose this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    You see the numbers to Pac last PPV? That shows nobody really cares about Pac unless he's fighting another big name. Oscar can fight your mom and people will watch. He without a doubt deserves the bigger purse. And what the fukk is Pac even complaining about? That 30% is a career high purse. Take the money and fight. You ran your mouth. Now you going to biitch out?
    umm which opponent do you think can make a fight against david diaz get better ppv numbers? you think oscar can?
    Do you know De La Hoya once sold out the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas with Patrick Charpentier as his opponent? It don't matter who Oscar fights. People will watch
    PAC fully recognized Hoya as the main draw by giving Hoya the lion share or 60% of the purse. But the greedy 70-30 offer from Hoya is just unacceptable to PAC... End of negotiations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    umm which opponent do you think can make a fight against david diaz get better ppv numbers? you think oscar can?
    Do you know De La Hoya once sold out the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas with Patrick Charpentier as his opponent? It don't matter who Oscar fights. People will watch
    PAC fully recognized Hoya as the main draw by giving Hoya the lion share or 60% of the purse. But the greedy 70-30 offer from Hoya is just unacceptable to PAC... End of negotiations...
    Shear "Bullshit", dam Pac fans cry because the 2nd JMM fight did not materialize so soon because JMM wanted a larger percentage. No difference here except Pac just turned down an even larger load of money, (well, he gets to remain at 135) Same argument, ODLH is the vehicle behind the money as Pac was vs JMM ...

    There is no $$$ @ 135 and I personally do not see a Hatton fight selling well in the USA. He will have to return to !30 to get decent purses vs Valero, Soto and Guzman.combined = a 30% cut vs ODLH.


    Now we will see if he suffers JMM's same fate and loses against a lesser opponent.
    Last edited by Addicted to_boxing; 08-15-2008 at 06:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    umm which opponent do you think can make a fight against david diaz get better ppv numbers? you think oscar can?
    Do you know De La Hoya once sold out the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas with Patrick Charpentier as his opponent? It don't matter who Oscar fights. People will watch
    PAC fully recognized Hoya as the main draw by giving Hoya the lion share or 60% of the purse. But the greedy 70-30 offer from Hoya is just unacceptable to PAC... End of negotiations...
    Come on now. Seriously. Think about it. That 30% is double his highest previous purse. He can't make that fighting anybody else. Yet he turns it down. And you call Oscar greedy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    Do you know De La Hoya once sold out the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas with Patrick Charpentier as his opponent? It don't matter who Oscar fights. People will watch
    PAC fully recognized Hoya as the main draw by giving Hoya the lion share or 60% of the purse. But the greedy 70-30 offer from Hoya is just unacceptable to PAC... End of negotiations...
    Come on now. Seriously. Think about it. That 30% is double his highest previous purse. He can't make that fighting anybody else. Yet he turns it down. And you call Oscar greedy?
    30% is good for PBF since he was the challenger and Oscar was the champ at that time. Since then Oscar is on a steady decline. Oscar got beaten by PBF and marked heavily by Forbes in a sleeper fight plus Oscar got no more belt.

    On the other hand PAC on steady rise, belt at 130, most exciting boxer, belt at 135, no. 1 P4P best boxer, etc. So IMO seriously PAC deserves 35 to 40 percent of the purse... Get it?
    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 08-15-2008 at 07:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    You see the numbers to Pac last PPV? That shows nobody really cares about Pac unless he's fighting another big name. Oscar can fight your mom and people will watch. He without a doubt deserves the bigger purse. And what the fukk is Pac even complaining about? That 30% is a career high purse. Take the money and fight. You ran your mouth. Now you going to biitch out?
    umm which opponent do you think can make a fight against david diaz get better ppv numbers? you think oscar can?
    Do you know De La Hoya once sold out the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas with Patrick Charpentier as his opponent? It don't matter who Oscar fights. People will watch
    yeah right, when he was 10 years younger and at the peak of his career. sure oscar is still ppv king but you brought up manny's numbers fighting david diaz that's why i'm asking if anybody oscar included could turn in bigger ppv sales fighting against diaz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    umm which opponent do you think can make a fight against david diaz get better ppv numbers? you think oscar can?
    Do you know De La Hoya once sold out the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas with Patrick Charpentier as his opponent? It don't matter who Oscar fights. People will watch
    yeah right, when he was 10 years younger and at the peak of his career. sure oscar is still ppv king but you brought up manny's numbers fighting david diaz that's why i'm asking if anybody oscar included could turn in bigger ppv sales fighting against diaz.
    Oscar-Diaz would have done at least twice as many PPV buys as pac-Diaz did. Maybe 3x more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    Do you know De La Hoya once sold out the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas with Patrick Charpentier as his opponent? It don't matter who Oscar fights. People will watch
    yeah right, when he was 10 years younger and at the peak of his career. sure oscar is still ppv king but you brought up manny's numbers fighting david diaz that's why i'm asking if anybody oscar included could turn in bigger ppv sales fighting against diaz.
    Oscar-Diaz would have done at least twice as many PPV buys as pac-Diaz did. Maybe 3x more.
    that would have gotten 3x more flack than the proposed pac-dlh fight. nobody would buy that.

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