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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    I think Pavlik must clean out his own division before he calls out Calzaghe.

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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    Hmmmm; somehow Calzaghe thought Pavlik was worth fighting in 2006 while he was practically unheard of and struggling to get recognition at MW, but now in 2008 Pavlik hasn't done enough to earn a fight with Joe

    Foot Into Mouth 101 How was Kelly a worthy opponent then but not now? And why was he trying to fight a fledgling MW who no one knew about when Joe was SMW?

    Sounds like Joe is either lying or he was trying to bully an up and coming MW prospect just so he could get another win on his spotless, awe inspiring record back in 2006.

    I'm not implying in any way Joe fears Pavlik, but the logic of Pavlik being a viable opponent in 2006 but not now is a bit strange to say the least.
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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    Both Calzaghe and his father said if the Hopkins performance was a one off and he beats Jones like he should he will fight Pavlik. They said they both see Joes career worst display as a sign he maybe slowing down.

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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Both Calzaghe and his father said if the Hopkins performance was a one off and he beats Jones like he should he will fight Pavlik. They said they both see Joes career worst display as a sign he maybe slowing down.

    If Pavlik/Calzaghe fight does get made, I wonder where it would be held?

    I wouldn't mind seeing it in Wales as I like the energy of those stadium fights.
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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Both Calzaghe and his father said if the Hopkins performance was a one off and he beats Jones like he should he will fight Pavlik. They said they both see Joes career worst display as a sign he maybe slowing down.

    If Pavlik/Calzaghe fight does get made, I wonder where it would be held?

    I wouldn't mind seeing it in Wales as I like the energy of those stadium fights.

    That would be great but i think HBO will want Vegas.

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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    Or in Atlantic City. Pavlik seems to have found a home in New Jersey. If Calzaghe vs Pavlik ends up there, I would be in attendance in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12 View Post
    Or in Atlantic City. Pavlik seems to have found a home in New Jersey. If Calzaghe vs Pavlik ends up there, I would be in attendance in a heartbeat.
    I will cruise in from Ohio and buy the beer and the casino chips. Atlantic city is so much better than Vegas. I am a cold weather guy who grew up not far from the banks of the great lakes. I haver never left the eastern time zone even though I live less than 2 hours from central line in Indiana. But from what I think I would like would be more Jersey than the desert.
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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Hmmmm; somehow Calzaghe thought Pavlik was worth fighting in 2006 while he was practically unheard of and struggling to get recognition at MW, but now in 2008 Pavlik hasn't done enough to earn a fight with Joe

    Foot Into Mouth 101 How was Kelly a worthy opponent then but not now? And why was he trying to fight a fledgling MW who no one knew about when Joe was SMW?

    Sounds like Joe is either lying or he was trying to bully an up and coming MW prospect just so he could get another win on his spotless, awe inspiring record back in 2006.

    I'm not implying in any way Joe fears Pavlik, but the logic of Pavlik being a viable opponent in 2006 but not now is a bit strange to say the least.

    Ahhh but Joe "thinks" they made him an offer again after that.... LOL

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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    As a Calzaghe fan i would be upset at him if he didnt beat up Pavlik.

    There will always be that question from knowlegless fans just as Mayweather has over Cotto and Marg.

    beat up the old dog then finish with Pavlik.

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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    As a Calzaghe fan i would be upset at him if he didnt beat up Pavlik.

    There will always be that question from knowlegless fans just as Mayweather has over Cotto and Marg.

    beat up the old dog then finish with Pavlik.
    He could not even beat up a 43 year old man. He could not even make him swell a little or even look like he was in a fight.
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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    That fight with b-hop was luckluster for me. Imagine b-hop dropping him at rnd 1! What if that was pavlik? The question is can calzaghe hurt pavlik with hand speed alone or the volume of punches alone? Pav is on his prime right now and if calzaghe and pavlik meets, i'm definitely rooting for pavlik.

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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    looks like cal really doesn't want to fight pav

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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    Quote Originally Posted by southakron314 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    As a Calzaghe fan i would be upset at him if he didnt beat up Pavlik.

    There will always be that question from knowlegless fans just as Mayweather has over Cotto and Marg.

    beat up the old dog then finish with Pavlik.
    He could not even beat up a 43 year old man. He could not even make him swell a little or even look like he was in a fight.

    How many times you seen Hopkins swollen? hopkins was hurt to the body and in the 11th was put down by a right hook to the body but faked a low blow.

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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    As a Calzaghe fan i would be upset at him if he didnt beat up Pavlik.

    There will always be that question from knowlegless fans just as Mayweather has over Cotto and Marg.

    beat up the old dog then finish with Pavlik.
    Don't you think there was legitimate reason for people to want to see Mayweather fight Cotto though? It still would be a great fight, and prior to losing to Marg Cotto was on a huge roll and had a better resume at Welter than Floyd in their time there. Margo I'll give you. But I don't see Pavlik-Calzaghe as that kind of matchup at all. Joe Calzaghe is no Mayweather, simple as. He's never had a string of fights against solid fighters where he has outclassed them all and not taken clean punchers, never. I think Pavlik does have a very good chance to beat Calzaghe, though he would still be an underdog for me. I don't think anyone is denying Calzaghe has better skills, but he would have to fight a very very good fight in order to keep PAvlik off him for 12 rounds without being hurt at some point, and Pavlik is the best finisher and hardest puncher he's ever fought imo.

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    Default Re: Boxing: Calzaghe dismisses Pavlik talk

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    As a Calzaghe fan i would be upset at him if he didnt beat up Pavlik.

    There will always be that question from knowlegless fans just as Mayweather has over Cotto and Marg.

    beat up the old dog then finish with Pavlik.
    Don't you think there was legitimate reason for people to want to see Mayweather fight Cotto though? It still would be a great fight, and prior to losing to Marg Cotto was on a huge roll and had a better resume at Welter than Floyd in their time there. Margo I'll give you. But I don't see Pavlik-Calzaghe as that kind of matchup at all. Joe Calzaghe is no Mayweather, simple as. He's never had a string of fights against solid fighters where he has outclassed them all and not taken clean punchers, never. I think Pavlik does have a very good chance to beat Calzaghe, though he would still be an underdog for me. I don't think anyone is denying Calzaghe has better skills, but he would have to fight a very very good fight in order to keep PAvlik off him for 12 rounds without being hurt at some point, and Pavlik is the best finisher and hardest puncher he's ever fought imo.


    I think Mayweather v Cotto and Calzaghe v Pavlik should 100% be made. As for hardest puncher? hmm at 160lbs Pavlik is a power puncher but at 168lbs its unknown if he hits as hard as Kessler or Eubank or Lacy. He is a good finisher though.

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