Haye 16st 9lbs

[killersheep]

You guy's are hilarious. OOh AHH Haye looks huge. What does looking good have anything to do in this sport absolutely NOTHING !!!. Remember bodybuilding and boxing are 2 totally different things. Wlad will test the one thing that matters in this sport his jaw. Then we will see if any of that muscle matters.

I don't hate Haye. I am just sick of this guy being built up like he will knock a building down with one punch.

Seen as Haye porbably has the hardest P4P punch people will talk about it. As for being able to knock a building down... no, but no-one takes a flush Haymaker no-one.

Edwin Valero may argue that point.

[DaxxKahn]

You guy's are hilarious. OOh AHH Haye looks huge. What does looking good have anything to do in this sport absolutely NOTHING !!!. Remember bodybuilding and boxing are 2 totally different things. Wlad will test the one thing that matters in this sport his jaw. Then we will see if any of that muscle matters.

I don't hate Haye. I am just sick of this guy being built up like he will knock a building down with one punch.

Seen as Haye porbably has the hardest P4P punch people will talk about it. As for being able to knock a building down... no, but no-one takes a flush Haymaker no-one.

Edwin Valero may argue that point.

Agreed...I also think P4P Pacquiao is a more dangerous puncher.....

People tend to forget the names on Hayes KO resume are no world beaters...and those most know are wayy past best...His biggest wins are Mormeck and Enzo....Who the F*** has Enzo ever beaten to be considered anything other then just another fighter....

It may just be me but Haye has done little to impress me so far other then a few decent performances and a KO list of local bar drunks

[killersheep]

Seen as Haye porbably has the hardest P4P punch people will talk about it. As for being able to knock a building down... no, but no-one takes a flush Haymaker no-one.

Edwin Valero may argue that point.

Agreed...I also think P4P Pacquiao is a more dangerous puncher.....

People tend to forget the names on Hayes KO resume are no world beaters...and those most know are wayy past best...His biggest wins are Mormeck and Enzo....Who the F*** has Enzo ever beaten to be considered anything other then just another fighter....

It may just be me but Haye has done little to impress me so far other then a few decent performances and a KO list of local bar drunks

Credit where credit is due, he did everything he needed to in the CW division, he does make for entertaining fights, but anyone saying he has done anything at HW is certainly showing their fanboyism. At HW he is an unknown quantity. Haye needs to fight Arreola, or someone of that level.

Arreola is rated #7 by the IBF and #4 by the WBO which are the two straps that Wladdy holds. Arreola also holds the #10 spot on the ring list.

[ross]

he does make for entertaining fights.

Hmmm

Oh yeah, Abdul was a real smash bang affair

Wasnt that the figfht where he panicked about going the distance and he did it by not throwing any punches

[leftylee]

he does make for entertaining fights.

Hmmm

Oh yeah, Abdul was a real smash bang affair

Wasnt that the figfht where he panicked about going the distance and he did it by not throwing any punches

Haye hit him with everything. Abdoul has an iron chin.

[WelshDevilRob]

he does make for entertaining fights.

Hmmm

Oh yeah, Abdul was a real smash bang affair

Wasnt that the figfht where he panicked about going the distance and he did it by not throwing any punches

Haye hit him with everything. Abdoul has an iron chin.

It was a public sparring contest. The team wanted him to go the distance and the plan was to limit his punch output each round and not throw any real big shots. It worked as it gave Haye the experience of doing 12 rounds. They used this formula against Mormeck as they knew Haye was weak at the weight - except against Mormeck they mixed in the bombs aswell.

A similar situation happened when Lennox Lewis fought undefeated Zelkjo Mavrovic. Emmanual Steward wanted Lennox to do the rounds to get him prepared for his next fight against Holyfield.

Sometimes not looking great in a fight is for a reason - the bigger prize down the line.

[killersheep]

he does make for entertaining fights.

Hmmm

Oh yeah, Abdul was a real smash bang affair

Wasnt that the figfht where he panicked about going the distance and he did it by not throwing any punches

I would say that Haye-Mormeck was one of the most exciting Cruiserweight fights in recent memory. I'm not a fan of Haye, but I'll watch his fights because he is exciting to watch the fact that he has
that much power and also has the detrement of a weak chin makes it
all that much more interesting. He did everything he could against Ishmail, you can't rely on knocking everyone out.

So who in the Cruiserweight or Heavyweight division does bring the excitement level you are talking about, what is the standard here you are disputing?

[ross]

What are you on about? Im commenting that people are overrating Haye by believing his own tripe, like hes some cult leader

I know alot of fighters are boring and I remember watching Haye follow Abdul around for an entire fight without breaking a sweat, that was fuucking boring to watch, he didnt attempt to up the pace and got booed loudly.

Haye is just as boring as the next fighter.

Abdul had been stopped before Haye fought him as well

[killersheep]

What are you on about? Im commenting that people are overrating Haye by believing his own tripe, like hes some cult leader

I know alot of fighters are boring and I remember watching Haye follow Abdul around for an entire fight without breaking a sweat, that was fuucking boring to watch, he didnt attempt to up the pace and got booed loudly.

Haye is just as boring as the next fighter.

Abdul had been stopped before Haye fought him as well

I by no means think Haye is a god and I don't think I have given that impression. He is an exciting fighter to me end of. I would like to see him fight Arreola which should let is know if there is any truth is his claims.

And since I have to defend myself against you I will refer you to the very post to which you took a single quote.

Credit where credit is due, he did everything he needed to in the CW division, he does make for entertaining fights, but anyone saying he has done anything at HW is certainly showing their fanboyism. At HW he is an unknown quantity. Haye needs to fight Arreola, or someone of that level.

Arreola is rated #7 by the IBF and #4 by the WBO which are the two straps that Wladdy holds. Arreola also holds the #10 spot on the ring list.

Please point out in this statement where I am "following him like a cult leader" and why you chose me to focus this argument against.

Furthermore, did you find Haye-Mormeck boring?

[Markusdarkus]

Seen as Haye porbably has the hardest P4P punch people will talk about it. As for being able to knock a building down... no, but no-one takes a flush Haymaker no-one.

Edwin Valero may argue that point.

Agreed...I also think P4P Pacquiao is a more dangerous puncher.....

People tend to forget the names on Hayes KO resume are no world beaters...and those most know are wayy past best...His biggest wins are Mormeck and Enzo....Who the F*** has Enzo ever beaten to be considered anything other then just another fighter....

It may just be me but Haye has done little to impress me so far other then a few decent performances and a KO list of local bar drunks

{acquaio is not a more dangerous puncher than Haye thats a crazy statement. And Hayes resume for a guy with 21fights is superb.

[OumaFan]

Ok I guess now I see a reason people can't stand Haye.

[Markusdarkus]

Ok I guess now I see a reason people can't stand Haye.

Dont start stupid shit.

Pacquaio is not a more dangerous puncher than Haye when was the last time you see him blast someone with one shot?

And tell me an active fighter that has fought better comp than Haye after 21 fights?

Try to back yourself up, the old the board will disagree so i will now claim this guy is a hugger trick...... fails everytime.

[WelshDevilRob]

Let's hope Haye is as good as his talent suggests. The man has all the skills in the World.

The division is boring, American Heavyweight boxing once the flagship is now moribund.

Haye is throwing light and interest on a division that is bland.

[OumaFan]

Ok I guess now I see a reason people can't stand Haye.

Dont start stupid shit.

Pacquaio is not a more dangerous puncher than Haye when was the last time you see him blast someone with one shot?

And tell me an active fighter that has fought better comp than Haye after 21 fights?

Try to back yourself up, the old the board will disagree so i will now claim this guy is a hugger trick...... fails everytime.

If you want to say Haye's a bigger puncher, fine, he is a big puncher, to act like its not even up for debate is ridiculous, not as ridiculous as "no one can take a flush hayemaker", that set a new standard really (somebody could take a flush bomb from Joe Lewis, somebody could take one from George Foreman, someone could take on from Tyson, etc, etc, but no one's going to be able to take one from Haye, for fucks sake, come on now), but still a bit ridiculous. Haye has one early knockout that counts, one, and its debatable how good Enzo really is anyway. Other than that he has knocked out guys he should be knocking out, and its not like he got all of those guys out quickly, see Fraggomeni, Abdoul, Johannsen, etc.

Pacquaio has taken his power all the way up from 112 to 135. He has a lot of early knockouts too, especially earlier in his career, like Haye, but that's just not gonna happen when you step up to the level/weight that he's stepped up too though, a level Haye hasn't gone to yet. Haye's not bombing a fighter of JMM's quality out early.

Haye has fought good competition for a guy with 21 fights, that's one of the reasons I'm a fan