How would a Roy Jones Jr Vs Marvin Hagler fight have ended

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Also people that are arguing that Hagler was a different fighter when he was younger. Well that would have helped Roy out more, Hagler liked to box a lot more in his prime when his only chance against Roy would be to come with relentless pressure, however Hagler was still a counter puncher in his prime even when coming forward, and there is no way you could fight that way against Roy. Roy was way too fast for Hagler to fight in that style. Hagler tried to fighting that way against Duran and that made that fight a lot closer than it could have been because Duran was faster, and a better boxer then Hagler, it cost Hagler against Leonard early when he tried to outbox him.

James Toney was a great fighter at coming forward and countering, in a fight much closer, but similar to Chavez-Taylor, James Toney had been landing hard right hands against the supremely gifted Michael Nunn all night, until he turned it up late, and Nunn succumbed to the pressure and Toney's power. Toney came forward trying to let Roy lead, and Roy was too fast for TOney to react.

Now you can compare overall, all you want of Hagler to TOney, but Toney is way up there in terms of the best middleweights ever, easily in the top 15 or 20(this being the deepest divison ever IMO). Anyways TOney regardless of his lower rank was faster, had a same caliber of chin, and was a better counter punch then Hagler. He was also harder to hit, but Roy was too elusive, too good at moving, too good at countering. Nobody could counter like ROy and it catches everyone off guard.

Thats why I think Hearns has a better chance against Roy because he would use the range which Roy showed that he was less comfortable in dealing with when he faced Hopkins and Griffin.

Chinny-ass Hearns would stand a better chance against Roy? Who has been beating you with retard stick lately T-Bag? Against Roy, with all the power you are touting? You can't have it both ways. By the case you are making, Jones should be able to land the KO blow against Hearns. We all know it can be done. Leonard did it. Barkley did it. Doesn't Jones have better power than Barkley, or at least enough more speed and skill to insure he could a finishing blow on Hearns? I'm the one who needs to get a functioning brain? Please.


Toney was a top 15 middleweight ever? Toney may be a top 20 MW, but Hagler is top 10 certainly, and possibly top 5.

Jones KO's Hearns, and wins a hard fought, competitive decision against Hagler. That's really the end of it. That's not 80's nut-hugging, it just realistic.

Did you drop out of school, and onto your head? Do you know nothing about styles making fights? Roy wasn't a guy that would brawl with anyone. Did you see Leonard outbox Hearns, no? Thats because he couldn't. Hearns was next to impossible to outbox. He had good speed, great length and good enough power AND accuracy to KO Jones. Hearns landed punches nobody else could against you. I still think Roy wins this more often then not because he was bigger and faster then Hearns, but Hearns had a better puncher's chance against Roy then Hagler ever did because he was superior in terms of pure boxing, and that was what gave Roy a lot of trouble. Once again Ray sold out to land punches on Hearns, Barkley was brawler, so was HAgler when he fought Hearns, thats how you beat Hearns easily, but look when Leonard tried to box him, look when Benitez tried to, What Gerald M spar with Hearns. You couldnt' stay on the outside.

Hearns was a much more dangerous opponent for Roy, and your arguments are not even debating against.

As for James Toney I mean him as a 160 and 168 pound fighter. ALso Hagler deserves #2 behind Greb, way too many old school fighters get over appreciated.