Simulated Pavlik Calzaghe fight. here is the result.

[rjj tszyu]

Pavlik is a slow one dimensional fighter whose style is perfect for Calzaghe.

Calzaghes wins a UD because of his superior movement, speed and boxing intelligence. His granite chin is also another reason why he can't lose to Pavlik.

Its funny. I was convinced that Taylor would beat Pavlik because he had all the same advantages as Joe does.

I know i've said this before but I think that Pavlik learned more in them early rounds against Taylor than he did in his whole pro career before and I think he came out of the fight a far better boxer. In the rematch he showed just how much his boxing skills had improved by again shocking me and outboxing Taylor.

[leftylee]

aww dis lil nigga mad cuz i told da truth well wat prime fighter had he fought yet um nobody kessler wasnt even fully prime with nobody impressive on his record at least kelly beat taylor twice who beat bhop 2wice and he dropped dat bitch in da first round

I neg repped you. There's no need for racism here and am also gonna report the post. Big H said he was gonna ban any racist comments. Not acceptable that statement and makes the foum look bad.

[leftylee]

Pavlik is a slow one dimensional fighter whose style is perfect for Calzaghe.

Calzaghes wins a UD because of his superior movement, speed and boxing intelligence. His granite chin is also another reason why he can't lose to Pavlik.

Granite chin huh ? You have to be kidding ?. A 43 yr old B-Hop who hasn't KO'd anyone in years put him down with a right hand. Compare the power in Hopkins right hand to Pavlik's and Joe would get KNFO. Only one outcome IMO.

Hopkins power at 175 > Pavliks power at 168. Pavliks only fight above 160 went the distance against a guy he knocked out previously although Taylor did fight a smarter fight the second time round. The KD against Hopkins happened due to him being off balance and not expecting the punch, if i am correct he got up in 4, wasn't even hurt and WON the fight.

Fighters getting knocked down doesn't mean they don't have a granite chin. Look at Margarito.... he has one of the best chins in the sport and he has been down a few times.

Margarito has only been down once if I'm correct early in his career. Also it's a bit insulting to call Pavlik one dimensional. He showed his boxing abilities in the second Jermain Taylor fight and we've seen plenty of times his power and him willing to trade.

[rjj tszyu]

Granite chin huh ? You have to be kidding ?. A 43 yr old B-Hop who hasn't KO'd anyone in years put him down with a right hand. Compare the power in Hopkins right hand to Pavlik's and Joe would get KNFO. Only one outcome IMO.

Hopkins power at 175 > Pavliks power at 168. Pavliks only fight above 160 went the distance against a guy he knocked out previously although Taylor did fight a smarter fight the second time round. The KD against Hopkins happened due to him being off balance and not expecting the punch, if i am correct he got up in 4, wasn't even hurt and WON the fight.

Fighters getting knocked down doesn't mean they don't have a granite chin. Look at Margarito.... he has one of the best chins in the sport and he has been down a few times.

Margarito has only been down once if I'm correct early in his career. Also it's a bit insulting to call Pavlik one dimensional. He showed his boxing abilities in the second Jermain Taylor fight and we've seen plenty of times his power and him willing to trade.

He was down more than once early on but we must remember that he turned pro at 15. That is a child

[Violent Demise]

Granite chin huh ? You have to be kidding ?. A 43 yr old B-Hop who hasn't KO'd anyone in years put him down with a right hand. Compare the power in Hopkins right hand to Pavlik's and Joe would get KNFO. Only one outcome IMO.

Hopkins power at 175 > Pavliks power at 168. Pavliks only fight above 160 went the distance against a guy he knocked out previously although Taylor did fight a smarter fight the second time round. The KD against Hopkins happened due to him being off balance and not expecting the punch, if i am correct he got up in 4, wasn't even hurt and WON the fight.

Fighters getting knocked down doesn't mean they don't have a granite chin. Look at Margarito.... he has one of the best chins in the sport and he has been down a few times.

Margarito has only been down once if I'm correct early in his career. Also it's a bit insulting to call Pavlik one dimensional. He showed his boxing abilities in the second Jermain Taylor fight and we've seen plenty of times his power and him willing to trade.

Danny Perez dropped Margarito with a body shot back in 2002

[Violent Demise]

I think this thread proves how crazy Pavliks fans are getting.

Why neg rep the guy for saying the "Calfaggy" post was a poor post and yet rep the guy slagging off Calzaghe? its only a few but man it makes me hate a guy i actually like.

And Violent you cocky twit Lacy up until 1 second before the first bell with Calzaghe was in no way over-rated and was expected to crush Calzaghe.

Maybe by you and fans with limited knowledge

I think this thread proves how crazy Pavliks fans are getting.

Why neg rep the guy for saying the "Calfaggy" post was a poor post and yet rep the guy slagging off Calzaghe? its only a few but man it makes me hate a guy i actually like.

And Violent you cocky twit Lacy up until 1 second before the first bell with Calzaghe was in no way over-rated and was expected to crush Calzaghe.

It was VD who neg repped me and we all know he hates Calzaghe.

Pathetic really.

Me too its a joke ironically he picked both Lacy and Kessler to knock Calzaghe out inside 8rds. O well.

I actually picked Calzaghe to embarrass Lacy. And he did. It's sad when you have to reduce yourself to lying. Poor kid.

Then what was that shit I heard in Wales before the Manfredo fight.

fair enough didn't know that but googled it and yeah thats uncool,
Bronco McKart doesn't hit harder than Miranda but Hopkins doesn't hit harder than Kess... his win over Hopkins was ugly as fuck but u might find Pavlik will need an ugly win to beat the Nard, u slag Calzaghes opponents but Pav fought 30 nobodys before stepping up, he did call out Hopkins but Hopkins then backed out. U slag his power but its well know his hands are fucked so he can't really bang anymore but he still wins fights even without the power he had, thats pretty impressive.

You cant set a legacy in stone without ever facing great primed fighters like , Wright , Jones Jr, Hopkins, and Toney. Now he is lgthvy and will never step foot in the ring with Tarver.

Agreed

[Markusdarkus]

I think this thread proves how crazy Pavliks fans are getting.

Why neg rep the guy for saying the "Calfaggy" post was a poor post and yet rep the guy slagging off Calzaghe? its only a few but man it makes me hate a guy i actually like.

And Violent you cocky twit Lacy up until 1 second before the first bell with Calzaghe was in no way over-rated and was expected to crush Calzaghe.

Maybe by you and fans with limited knowledge

Me too its a joke ironically he picked both Lacy and Kessler to knock Calzaghe out inside 8rds. O well.

I actually picked Calzaghe to embarrass Lacy. And he did. It's sad when you have to reduce yourself to lying. Poor kid.

fair enough didn't know that but googled it and yeah thats uncool,
Bronco McKart doesn't hit harder than Miranda but Hopkins doesn't hit harder than Kess... his win over Hopkins was ugly as fuck but u might find Pavlik will need an ugly win to beat the Nard, u slag Calzaghes opponents but Pav fought 30 nobodys before stepping up, he did call out Hopkins but Hopkins then backed out. U slag his power but its well know his hands are fucked so he can't really bang anymore but he still wins fights even without the power he had, thats pretty impressive.

You cant set a legacy in stone without ever facing great primed fighters like , Wright , Jones Jr, Hopkins, and Toney. Now he is lgthvy and will never step foot in the ring with Tarver.

Agreed

I have more boxing knowlege in my little toe-nail than you. Internet warrior who neg reps every comment he doesnt agree with. Your a class A prick and a hater you pick against fighters because you cant see beyond your hate which makes you about as stupid as they come. I see your prediction on Calkzaghe vs Pavlik about as accurate as your Calzaghe v Kessler pick.

[Phil]

Then what was that shit I heard in Wales before the Manfredo fight.

fair enough didn't know that but googled it and yeah thats uncool,
Bronco McKart doesn't hit harder than Miranda but Hopkins doesn't hit harder than Kess... his win over Hopkins was ugly as fuck but u might find Pavlik will need an ugly win to beat the Nard, u slag Calzaghes opponents but Pav fought 30 nobodys before stepping up, he did call out Hopkins but Hopkins then backed out. U slag his power but its well know his hands are fucked so he can't really bang anymore but he still wins fights even without the power he had, thats pretty impressive.

You cant set a legacy in stone without ever facing great primed fighters like , Wright , Jones Jr, Hopkins, and Toney. Now he is lgthvy and will never step foot in the ring with Tarver.

In fairness if he fought Tarver people would give him shit because Hopkins destroyed him already, so the logic choice at lgthvy was Hopkins, Winky aint a smiddle and never was

[Violent Demise]

I think this thread proves how crazy Pavliks fans are getting.

Why neg rep the guy for saying the "Calfaggy" post was a poor post and yet rep the guy slagging off Calzaghe? its only a few but man it makes me hate a guy i actually like.

And Violent you cocky twit Lacy up until 1 second before the first bell with Calzaghe was in no way over-rated and was expected to crush Calzaghe.

Maybe by you and fans with limited knowledge



I actually picked Calzaghe to embarrass Lacy. And he did. It's sad when you have to reduce yourself to lying. Poor kid.

You cant set a legacy in stone without ever facing great primed fighters like , Wright , Jones Jr, Hopkins, and Toney. Now he is lgthvy and will never step foot in the ring with Tarver.

Agreed

I have more boxing knowlege in my little toe-nail than you. Internet warrior who neg reps every comment he doesnt agree with. Your a class A prick and a hater you pick against fighters because you cant see beyond your hate which makes you about as stupid as they come. I see your prediction on Calkzaghe vs Pavlik about as accurate as your Calzaghe v Kessler pick.

Show everybody my Calzaghe-Lacy prediction that you claim to have seen. It's pretty fukking said when you have to lie on internet forum.

[BIG H]

aww dis lil n**** mad cuz i told da truth well wat prime fighter had he fought yet um nobody kessler wasnt even fully prime with nobody impressive on his record at least kelly beat taylor twice who beat bhop 2wice and he dropped dat bitch in da first round

[Deanrw]

aww dis lil nigga mad cuz i told da truth well wat prime fighter had he fought yet um nobody kessler wasnt even fully prime with nobody impressive on his record at least kelly beat taylor twice who beat bhop 2wice and he dropped dat bitch in da first round

Racism is not tolerated in these forums. You will not be here long.

It's obvious he's using it as a saying. There's no racism behind it. To much sensitivity in this forum now a days

I know he may not have meant to offend using the term the way he did. It is still considered one of the most vile terms to use no matter the intent. He would never go out and say it aloud in public to people he does not know, so why should he here? I certainly do not like the term, so I could only imagine how it would make our membership who are black feel.

I know the world is overly politically correct these days, but refraining from using that word in any way shape or form certainly does not add to that problem IMO.

[Spicoli]

I think this thread proves how crazy Pavliks fans are getting.

Why neg rep the guy for saying the "Calfaggy" post was a poor post and yet rep the guy slagging off Calzaghe? its only a few but man it makes me hate a guy i actually like.

And Violent you cocky twit Lacy up until 1 second before the first bell with Calzaghe was in no way over-rated and was expected to crush Calzaghe.

On more than a few occasions the network fanboys likened Lacy to "conjuring images of Holyfield"....Over-hyped blurs into Over-rated.The man had some intensity and all out style but You could see that one coming Imo.

[Markusdarkus]

Maybe by you and fans with limited knowledge



I actually picked Calzaghe to embarrass Lacy. And he did. It's sad when you have to reduce yourself to lying. Poor kid.



Agreed

I have more boxing knowlege in my little toe-nail than you. Internet warrior who neg reps every comment he doesnt agree with. Your a class A prick and a hater you pick against fighters because you cant see beyond your hate which makes you about as stupid as they come. I see your prediction on Calkzaghe vs Pavlik about as accurate as your Calzaghe v Kessler pick.

Show everybody my Calzaghe-Lacy prediction that you claim to have seen. It's pretty fukking said when you have to lie on internet forum.

Hanging on that chessnut hater.

Exposed you dappy twat, biggest internet goon ive met on here. You just go around slamming comments with childish slurs thinking you king shit. Unless its a post belittling fighters you hate or throwing love at the ones you like then you agree.

See right through you.

[Pugilistic]

Granite chin huh ? You have to be kidding ?. A 43 yr old B-Hop who hasn't KO'd anyone in years put him down with a right hand. Compare the power in Hopkins right hand to Pavlik's and Joe would get KNFO. Only one outcome IMO.

Hopkins power at 175 > Pavliks power at 168. Pavliks only fight above 160 went the distance against a guy he knocked out previously although Taylor did fight a smarter fight the second time round. The KD against Hopkins happened due to him being off balance and not expecting the punch, if i am correct he got up in 4, wasn't even hurt and WON the fight.

Fighters getting knocked down doesn't mean they don't have a granite chin. Look at Margarito.... he has one of the best chins in the sport and he has been down a few times.

Margarito has only been down once if I'm correct early in his career. Also it's a bit insulting to call Pavlik one dimensional. He showed his boxing abilities in the second Jermain Taylor fight and we've seen plenty of times his power and him willing to trade.

I'm sure he has been down more than that.

Taylor doesn't have good lateral movement like Calzaghe and always tires down the stretch, Calzaghe doesn't tire and his lateral movement is pretty good. Calzaghe's southpaw stance might pose a problem for Pavlik as well. Pavliks best weapon is his right hand, In the kessler fight Calzaghe adapted and took away Kessler's right hand who is a better technical boxer than Pavlik.... Once Calzaghe adapted to the right hand it would all be over for Pavlik. Styles make fights and Calzaghe's style is perfect against Pavlik.

[southakron314]

I think this thread proves how crazy Pavliks fans are getting.

Why neg rep the guy for saying the "Calfaggy" post was a poor post and yet rep the guy slagging off Calzaghe? its only a few but man it makes me hate a guy i actually like.

And Violent you cocky twit Lacy up until 1 second before the first bell with Calzaghe was in no way over-rated and was expected to crush Calzaghe.

Maybe by you and fans with limited knowledge



I actually picked Calzaghe to embarrass Lacy. And he did. It's sad when you have to reduce yourself to lying. Poor kid.

You cant set a legacy in stone without ever facing great primed fighters like , Wright , Jones Jr, Hopkins, and Toney. Now he is lgthvy and will never step foot in the ring with Tarver.

Agreed

I have more boxing knowlege in my little toe-nail than you. Internet warrior who neg reps every comment he doesnt agree with. Your a class A prick and a hater you pick against fighters because you cant see beyond your hate which makes you about as stupid as they come. I see your prediction on Calkzaghe vs Pavlik about as accurate as your Calzaghe v Kessler pick.

If you train I hope you dont try to image Calzaghe. In a real fight that style is worthless and will get you broke. The man is a fairy. EVERYONE.....JOE CALZAGHE IS GIVING OUT FREE MUSTACHE RIDES TO THE FIRST 100 MEN IN VEGAS THIS JUNE . NO CUTTING IN LINE PHIL YOU HAVE TO WAIT WITH IN LINE MARKUSDARKUS. I trained at goodshep's for my most of my child hood and teen ages. Northeast Ohio. We know how to swat like Pavlik , Shavers , Arroyo , Mancinni and Lampkin. all from northeast ohio all great punchers.