Can Kelly Pavlik do damage at 175?

[kingfrnk]

i never said lacy was a good fighter loser i said he was a noticable SMW and get off my thread its for pavlik fans

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Wow!


What the hell happened while I was gone?!?!

How can anyone call 168 a shit division... Go look at Jr Middleweight if you want to see virtually no depth...

168 has become one of my favorite divisions behind some of the little guys, light and welterwight divs...

SMW has emmense depth and skill.

Mikkel Kessler
Mundine
Taylor
Froch
Lacy
Andrade
Bika
Tsypko
Manfredo
Green
Dirrel
Mirranda
Pascal
Ward

and you still have...

Bute
Beyer
Codrington
Mendy
Henshaw
Banks
Buchanan


C'mon dude!

This is one of the toughest and most competetive divs in boxing today...

[Markusdarkus]

i never said lacy was a good fighter loser i said he was a noticable SMW and get off my thread its for pavlik fans

What a strange person.

[skel1983]

i never said lacy was a good fighter loser i said he was a noticable SMW and get off my thread its for pavlik fans

What a strange person.

Very strange, i suppose if you dont want to praise Kelly Pavlik with your tongue your not welcome.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

i never said lacy was a good fighter loser i said he was a noticable SMW and get off my thread its for pavlik fans

What a strange person.

Very strange, i suppose if you dont want to praise Kelly Pavlik with your tongue your not welcome.

LOL, I'm a huge Pav fan! He's my profile pic.

I believe him to quickly becoming the centerpiece of American boxing but that's not to say I won't give my oppinion otherwise.

Kelly's not a world beater or ender.

[Mr140]

Well i think Pavlik beating Taylor is better then anything Kessler has done. Lets not for get the man who out classed Kessler had a way more difficult time then Taylor did with Hopkins and that was a older version of Hopkins. Also look at what Kessler been up not much of anything so i dont think much of him

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Well i think Pavlik beating Taylor is better then anything Kessler has done. Lets not for get the man who out classed Kessler had a way more difficult time then Taylor did with Hopkins and that was a older version of Hopkins. Also look at what Kessler been up not much of anything so i dont think much of him

Mmmm... Can't say you're out of the ballpark at all.

I will say that had Kess been able to keep his foot on the peddle and stayed focused he could have mad it pretty controversial.

I know we could say "what if" to any fight...

...but regardless, I had Kess and Joe pretty much even going into the 6th.

Joe C showed his class in that fight totally blowing up his spot down the stretch. His stamina has always impressed the hell out of me.

...especially the Lacy fight... Never let up.

[skel1983]

Well i think Pavlik beating Taylor is better then anything Kessler has done. Lets not for get the man who out classed Kessler had a way more difficult time then Taylor did with Hopkins and that was a older version of Hopkins. Also look at what Kessler been up not much of anything so i dont think much of him

When a fighter comes of a defeat they usually take a step back and come back slowly unless they go staright back into a rematch, i respect your opinion and of course Pavlik knocking out the then Middleweight champion is better than anything Kessler has done in terms of victorys.

You say that Calzaghe had alot more trouble than Taylor did?? How exactly i think you will find alot more people thought Hopkins beat Taylor than beating Calzaghe.

[Mr140]

Well i thought the first fight was Taylors the second fight was a mess.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Well i think Pavlik beating Taylor is better then anything Kessler has done. Lets not for get the man who out classed Kessler had a way more difficult time then Taylor did with Hopkins and that was a older version of Hopkins. Also look at what Kessler been up not much of anything so i dont think much of him

When a fighter comes of a defeat they usually take a step back and come back slowly unless they go staright back into a rematch, i respect your opinion and of course Pavlik knocking out the then Middleweight champion is better than anything Kessler has done in terms of victorys.

You say that Calzaghe had alot more trouble than Taylor did?? How exactly i think you will find alot more people thought Hopkins beat Taylor than beating Calzaghe.

This is a great point... I thought that Hop won the first outing against Taylor... By an extremely thin margin but I thought he pulled it out.

I def had Joe beating Hop. Not by a whole lot but nontheless...

Good point, Skel

[skel1983]

What a strange person.

Very strange, i suppose if you dont want to praise Kelly Pavlik with your tongue your not welcome.

LOL, I'm a huge Pav fan! He's my profile pic.

I believe him to quickly becoming the centerpiece of American boxing but that's not to say I won't give my oppinion otherwise.

Kelly's not a world beater or ender.

I totally agree Pride, great entertaining fighter, i like the guy. I got in on this debate with the thread starter because he says Kessler hasnt got the experience of Pavlik? Which i just thought was a bizzare statement.