Joel gets stopped - major surprise

[ICB]

I agree with Saddo's ranking list except that Katsidis is grossly overrated. Prescott as well doesn't deserve ranking yet. In their places you could put Peterson and possibly Jueregui at 9 and 10. You have to have Campbell at the top even though I dispute the way he beat Diaz. Pac is clearly number 2 at this point.

Actually I forgot to retain Casamayor in my rankings... He was not dominated by Marquez so I'll place him at no. 5 ...

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Nate Campbell
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Edwin Valero
7. Breidis Prescott
8. Michael Katsidis
9. Julio Diaz
10. David Diaz

1. Nate Campbell
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Julio Diaz
7. David Diaz
8. Breidis Prescott
9. Yuri Romanov
10. Michael Katsidis

Why is Edwin Valero on the list ? he hasn't fought at Lightweight.

[XaduBoxer]

I agree with Saddo's ranking list except that Katsidis is grossly overrated. Prescott as well doesn't deserve ranking yet. In their places you could put Peterson and possibly Jueregui at 9 and 10. You have to have Campbell at the top even though I dispute the way he beat Diaz. Pac is clearly number 2 at this point.

Actually I forgot to retain Casamayor in my rankings... He was not dominated by Marquez so I'll place him at no. 5 ...

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Nate Campbell
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Edwin Valero
7. Breidis Prescott
8. Michael Katsidis
9. Julio Diaz
10. David Diaz

1. Nate Campbell
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Julio Diaz
7. David Diaz
8. Breidis Prescott
9. Yuri Romanov
10. Michael Katsidis

Why is Edwin Valero on the list ? he hasn't fought at Lightweight.

I already explained this in my previous post in this thread... Anyway I already ranked Valero at lightweight since he is highly ranked (a champ) at his previous division. So Valero could be ranked preferably below (or could be higher) the current champs in his new division... This actually makes sense if you consider what PAC and JMM (very highly ranked at 130) did to the champs at 135...
.

[killersheep]

Actually I forgot to retain Casamayor in my rankings... He was not dominated by Marquez so I'll place him at no. 5 ...

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Nate Campbell
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Edwin Valero
7. Breidis Prescott
8. Michael Katsidis
9. Julio Diaz
10. David Diaz

1. Nate Campbell
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Julio Diaz
7. David Diaz
8. Breidis Prescott
9. Yuri Romanov
10. Michael Katsidis

Why is Edwin Valero on the list ? he hasn't fought at Lightweight.

I already explained this in my previous post in this thread... Anyway I already ranked Valero at lightweight since he is highly ranked (a champ) at his previous division. So Valero could be ranked preferably below (or could be higher) the current champs in his new division... This actually makes sense if you consider what PAC and JMM (very highly ranked at 130) did to the champs at 135...
.

No actually it makes no sense to rank someone who has never fought in a division.

[ICB]

1. Nate Campbell
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Julio Diaz
7. David Diaz
8. Breidis Prescott
9. Yuri Romanov
10. Michael Katsidis

Why is Edwin Valero on the list ? he hasn't fought at Lightweight.

I already explained this in my previous post in this thread... Anyway I already ranked Valero at lightweight since he is highly ranked (a champ) at his previous division. So Valero could be ranked preferably below (or could be higher) the current champs in his new division... This actually makes sense if you consider what PAC and JMM (very highly ranked at 130) did to the champs at 135...
.

No actually it makes no sense to rank someone who has never fought in a division.

Exactly thats like me rating Vernon Forrest number 6 in the Middleweight division its stupid and makes no sense.

[XaduBoxer]

1. Nate Campbell
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Juan Diaz
5. Joel Casamayor
6. Julio Diaz
7. David Diaz
8. Breidis Prescott
9. Yuri Romanov
10. Michael Katsidis

Why is Edwin Valero on the list ? he hasn't fought at Lightweight.

I already explained this in my previous post in this thread... Anyway I already ranked Valero at lightweight since he is highly ranked (a champ) at his previous division. So Valero could be ranked preferably below (or could be higher) the current champs in his new division... This actually makes sense if you consider what PAC and JMM (very highly ranked at 130) did to the champs at 135...
.

No actually it makes no sense to rank someone who has never fought in a division.

So why was PAC and JMM who has not fought at lightweight were the favorites when they faced the lightweight champs respectively in their first fight in that division?

Rankings also worked this way, based on fighter's complete resume...
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[pacfan]

Sheesh, it's the same ol' aruguments between the same ol' people, with the same ol' battle-line clearly drawn long time ago, with one group trying to belittle the accomplishments of the others' boy, while trying to inflate the accomplishments of their own, and vice versa. Don't you guys ever get tired?

[boozeboxer]

like someone else said the arab-emirates belt is the only one that holds much weight anymore.....

[brucelee]

Sheesh, it's the same ol' aruguments between the same ol' people, with the same ol' battle-line clearly drawn long time ago, with one group trying to belittle the accomplishments of the others' boy, while trying to inflate the accomplishments of their own, and vice versa. Don't you guys ever get tired?

You've said it in a nutshell pacfan.

Pac is number 1 at lightweight or number 2 (with Campbell ahead of him) coz he defeated Marquez.No way is Marquez above Pac. End of argument.


You can talk and talk about Pacquiao not winning over Marquez during their second fight but that is not how history will judge it. Besides, it was too controversial that no one can really say Marquez clearly won that last fight. So we go to the JUDGES' cards. Pacquiao won and let it be.

Now that issue can be settled once and for all if Marquez fights Pacquaio after Pacquaio fights DLH.

Enough of belittling my boy. Let us demand for a TRILOGY and see who's the better fighter!!!