Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

[The Fightfan]

The lineal championship I agree with. I think Marquez fought the real champ last night and Campbell is #2. So obviously we have to make a Campbell Marquez fight right ? Well hopefully.

[rjj tszyu]

The lineal championship I agree with. I think Marquez fought the real champ last night and Campbell is #2. So obviously we have to make a Campbell Marquez fight right ? Well hopefully.

I'd love to see this fight and then the winner take on Pac and I think lose to Pac!

[Pugilistic]

I have decided that the number one spot at lightweight is tied between Campbell and Marquez.

[Kev]

I have decided that the number one spot at lightweight is tied between Campbell and Marquez.

They definitely need to fight each other.

BUT you have to consider also that Manny is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter on the planet and holds a win over Marquez just two fights ago!

Can you have the p4p best fighter on the planet according to every ranking body behind a fighter he already beat in the last 12 months in a divisional ranking?

That makes no sense to me at all.

That's why I went with......

1. Pacquaio
2. Campbell
3. Marquez

But really all three have equal claim to the throne. There hasn't been this much controversy since the death of Edward the Confessor when Harold Godwinson, William the Conqueror and Harold Hardrada all battled for the English crown!

I can't wait to see how this falls out.

I reckon Pacquiao will win out if he makes the fights, although chances are he'll go with Oscar first leaving Marquez and Campbell to decide things first.

[Spicoli]

Forget the carnival trinkets and shiny things.I'm pretty conflicted on this.In a head to head match up and based on most recent preformances.....I really think Marquez is just too sharp and down the middle all around for Campbell.

But,I consider Campbell to be numero uno,Marquez 2nd,and Pac 3rd. what do we base it on.....# of belts ?Quality of opposition in respected division?Time at that weight and fight by fight quality?Then again,does one Casamayor battering win = wins over Juan Diaz,Kid Diamond,Quiles (ugh),Hlatswayo,Matt Zegan...Huh?,Oh and a loss to Lorenzo,who was just bludgeoned by Humberto Soto ?

Then again x 2.....Marquez is a P4P top tier fighter with out question......and is fresh off two ,some would say solidly,even up fights with the #1 P4P fighter today,Manny Pacquiao?3rd then again ...Awwwh nevermind

They need to fight,bottom line!!

[XaduBoxer]

I have decided that the number one spot at lightweight is tied between Campbell and Marquez.

They definitely need to fight each other.

BUT you have to consider also that Manny is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter on the planet and holds a win over Marquez just two fights ago!

Can you have the p4p best fighter on the planet according to every ranking body behind a fighter he already beat in the last 12 months in a divisional ranking?

That makes no sense to me at all.

That's why I went with......

1. Pacquaio
2. Campbell
3. Marquez

But really all three have equal claim to the throne. There hasn't been this much controversy since the death of Edward the Confessor when Harold Godwinson, William the Conqueror and Harold Hardrada all battled for the English crown!

I can't wait to see how this falls out.

I reckon Pacquiao will win out if he makes the fights, although chances are he'll go with Oscar first leaving Marquez and Campbell to decide things first.

My exact the same sentiment/stand as posted on the other thread...

1. Pacquaio
2. Campbell
3. Marquez

You can also add the argument on how these guys win over the fallen champs...

- Pacquiao totally dominated David Diaz before the 9th round stoppage
- Campbell dominated Juan
- JMM and Casa fought a close fight until the time of 11th round stoppage
.

[Kev]

I think the fairest case is to make the title of Ring Champion vacant like it is for the heavyweights.

Let's face, the Ring doesn't regard Wlad as the Ring champ yet still deciding to leave the title vacant.

I can't see how anyone could possibly argue that Marquez, Campbell or Manny have a better claim to the lightweight title than Wlad has to the heavyweight title, Marquez beating a washed up, inactive champ who clearly and undisputedly lost his title over a year ago to anyone with eyes just doesn't cut it as being Championship worthy imo.

The three of them HAVE to duke it out, period, that's the only way to get a champ. Until then the division is in a three way fracture.

[Galaxy]

I think the fairest case is to make the title of Ring Champion vacant like it is for the heavyweights.

Let's face, the Ring doesn't regard Wlad as the Ring champ yet still deciding to leave the title vacant.

I can't see how anyone could possibly argue that Marquez, Campbell or Manny have a better claim to the lightweight title than Wlad has to the heavyweight title, Marquez beating a washed up, inactive champ who clearly and undisputedly lost his title over a year ago to anyone with eyes just doesn't cut it as being Championship worthy imo.

The three of them HAVE to duke it out, period, that's the only way to get a champ. Until then the division is in a three way fracture.

Marquez beat the linear champ something Wlad has never done! When Vitali retired the championship became vacant. Since Wlad became ranked #1 he has never fought the #2 guy which would fill the vacancy. Wlad is definitely the #1 heavy but he ain't the champion!!! Marquez is!

Look at the history of the sport no champion has derserved every victory they recieved but you have to follow the offical decision no matter how much we disagree with it or we run the risk of becoming as incompetent as the alphabet idiots!

Like the ring says "Championships should be won & lost in the ring!" not just awarded because we think someone is better! Thats why they fight the fights.

The best fighter in the division is not always the champion or else the title would never change hands!

Marquez is definitely the champion at 135!!!

[Pugilistic]

I have decided that the number one spot at lightweight is tied between Campbell and Marquez.

They definitely need to fight each other.

BUT you have to consider also that Manny is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter on the planet and holds a win over Marquez just two fights ago!

Can you have the p4p best fighter on the planet according to every ranking body behind a fighter he already beat in the last 12 months in a divisional ranking?

That makes no sense to me at all.

That's why I went with......

1. Pacquaio
2. Campbell
3. Marquez

But really all three have equal claim to the throne. There hasn't been this much controversy since the death of Edward the Confessor when Harold Godwinson, William the Conqueror and Harold Hardrada all battled for the English crown!

I can't wait to see how this falls out.

I reckon Pacquiao will win out if he makes the fights, although chances are he'll go with Oscar first leaving Marquez and Campbell to decide things first.

I have Pac third on the rating at lightweight below Campbell and Marquez because although he holds a win over Marquez it was in the weightclass below and Marquez fought and beat the lineal champ Casamayor where Pacquiao beat a title holder David Diaz.

Marquez is more accomplished at Lightweight than Pac and Pacquiao being number 1 on the P4P list should have no effect on his ranking at lightweight. I currently have Campbell as the top guy at 135 because he beat the number 1 guy in the division Juan Diaz, Diaz was the man to beat and he did it which should make him number 1 and Marquez should be second as he beat the linear champ in Casamayor and Pac is third because he beat the Wbc champ David Diaz.