Phuking Republicans!

[boozeboxer]

Come on Lyle. You are better than this.

[El Kabong]

Come on Lyle. You are better than this.

I have my beliefs you have yours...I don't berate and belittle you (recently) about your opinions

[boozeboxer]

I was trying to get you worked up. I didn't mean anything by it.

[Gandalf]

I just don't get it. Even knowing the stupidity of a large segment of the American public I just don't get how Obama's not up twenty points. Look at what's going on in this country for fuck's sake You just have to laugh about it I guess. I was talking to a friend and he was blaming it on the fact that Obama's run a stupid campaign -which I do tend to agree with it but anyway- but that's not the point. Obama should be up twenty points even if he exiled himself to Siberia and ran his campaign by sending a letter once a month written in crayons with exclamation points and horrible spelling.

There's just no excuse for being a republican anymore, sorry, you're on the wrong side.

It is insane, but I would imagine that a significant portion of the US populace is politically illiterate. Quite the same in other countries too but seemingly not so pronounced. The UK has the Tories thumping Labour in the polls at the moment, and though no Tory myself, I can see how and why things are that way. There is a sense of something logical happening. When it comes to American politics it just befuddles me how it can be such a close run thing especially after the two terms of Bush. How could anyone want to perpetuate that? Perhaps its a self denial thing and a case of "I will bat for my team and no other". Perhaps complete ignorance of the issues and the way the US is declining. The US needs change, no doubt about it, and there is a whopping great choice of two.

[Kirkland Laing]

lyle I hate to say it, but you are a Fox news bigot. you eat that shit up. You are being a fool and they are playing you like a fiddle.

I feel sorry sometimes for your ignorance.

I don't listen to or watch Fox News...hate to break it to you buddy. And I am more independent than Kirkland or anyone else would have you believe but no one cares to ask me any specific questions on any issues and therefore I can't explain when I do disagree with McCain and ESPECIALLY Palin....but You don't care about it and that means your worse than you make me out to be.

Well Kirkland I hear "McCain doesn't know about the economy"...well neither does Obama and at least McCain tried to pass legislation to help the economy....I hear "Palin isn't qualified" well neither is Obama....I hear "If McCain is elected then Palin is going to be one heartbeat away from being the President" ...if Obama is going to be elected then HE is going to BE the President and Biden is a "heartbeat away from not being Vice President" but nobody thinks about that.

Obama's buddies are WORSE than anyone McCain even knows....and I'm talking about anyone McCain has EVER known like the dudes who beat him when he was a P.O.W.!!!!

McCain has insane economic policies and is advised by insane people, the very people who brought you the current meltdown. You'll notice he's flip flopped on his economic views since the current phase of the solvency crisis started. Obama uns=derstands the situation and is advised by non-insane people who also understand the situation -- a couple of years ago while McCain was claiming "I'm always for less regulation" Obama was sponsoring a bill to create oversight of the mortgage industry, something voted down by the GOP. McCain had admitted that he doesn't know anything about the economy.

Here are some specific questions for you since nobody asks you any :


Explain exactly what legislation McCain tried to pass to help the economy.

Explain who Obama's bad buddies are.


We should run a sweepstake to see which nationwide US bank is going to get bailed out this weekend. I'm going for WaMu with a bonus bailout of the Federal bank bailout agency which will be all out of funds after next weekend. Never mind, I'm sure Americans will find a way of adapting to $10 gasoline.

[sourpuss]

Here are some specific questions for you since nobody asks you any :


Explain exactly what legislation McCain tried to pass to help the economy.

Palin is a pretty hockey mom and McCain was a POW.

Explain who Obama's bad buddies are.

Obama is a gun-grabbin' muslim.

Did I answer them right?

[Kirkland Laing]

I just don't get it. Even knowing the stupidity of a large segment of the American public I just don't get how Obama's not up twenty points. Look at what's going on in this country for fuck's sake You just have to laugh about it I guess. I was talking to a friend and he was blaming it on the fact that Obama's run a stupid campaign -which I do tend to agree with it but anyway- but that's not the point. Obama should be up twenty points even if he exiled himself to Siberia and ran his campaign by sending a letter once a month written in crayons with exclamation points and horrible spelling.

There's just no excuse for being a republican anymore, sorry, you're on the wrong side.

It is insane, but I would imagine that a significant portion of the US populace is politically illiterate. Quite the same in other countries too but seemingly not so pronounced. The UK has the Tories thumping Labour in the polls at the moment, and though no Tory myself, I can see how and why things are that way. There is a sense of something logical happening. When it comes to American politics it just befuddles me how it can be such a close run thing especially after the two terms of Bush. How could anyone want to perpetuate that? Perhaps its a self denial thing and a case of "I will bat for my team and no other". Perhaps complete ignorance of the issues and the way the US is declining. The US needs change, no doubt about it, and there is a whopping great choice of two.

Political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler provided two groups of volunteers with the Bush administration's prewar claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. One group was given a refutation -- the comprehensive 2004 Duelfer report that concluded that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction before the United States invaded in 2003. Thirty-four percent of conservatives told only about the Bush administration's claims thought Iraq had hidden or destroyed its weapons before the U.S. invasion, but 64 percent of conservatives who heard both claim and refutation thought that Iraq really did have the weapons. The refutation, in other words, made the misinformation worse.
A similar "backfire effect" also influenced conservatives told about Bush administration assertions that tax cuts increase federal revenue. One group was offered a refutation by prominent economists that included current and former Bush administration officials. About 35 percent of conservatives told about the Bush claim believed it; 67 percent of those provided with both assertion and refutation believed that tax cuts increase revenue.
In a paper approaching publication, Nyhan, a PhD student at Duke University, and Reifler, at Georgia State University, suggest that Republicans might be especially prone to the backfire effect because conservatives may have more rigid views than liberals: Upon hearing a refutation, conservatives might "argue back" against the refutation in their minds, thereby strengthening their belief in the misinformation. Nyhan and Reifler did not see the same "backfire effect" when liberals were given misinformation and a refutation about the Bush administration's stance on stem cell research.


The Power of Political Misinformation


God help us all.

[sourpuss]

Obama Biden, seriously could you possibly have a more unfortunately named duo to run for the American presidency?

I keep saying it, and I will repeat it now, there is no way in hell that America will vote a black muslim with a classic terrorist name into office.

It's called the White House for a reason............

I like how the very same people who were all up in arms about his pastor still think hes muslim. Which is it? Was he going to a Christian church where Rev. Wright was the pastor, or is he a secret muslim? That Obama must be a busy man.

[Kirkland Laing]

Here are some specific questions for you since nobody asks you any :


Explain exactly what legislation McCain tried to pass to help the economy.

Palin is a pretty hockey mom and McCain was a POW.

Explain who Obama's bad buddies are.

Obama is a gun-grabbin' muslim.

Did I answer them right?

Was McCain a POW? I never knew that. He kept that quiet.


While he was a POW and served in the military and that's to be respected i still don't see how being a prisoner in Vietnam qualifies you to be president. So was Gary Glitter and nobody's going to vote for him.

[sourpuss]

Here are some specific questions for you since nobody asks you any :


Explain exactly what legislation McCain tried to pass to help the economy.

Palin is a pretty hockey mom and McCain was a POW.

Explain who Obama's bad buddies are.

Obama is a gun-grabbin' muslim.

Did I answer them right?

Was McCain a POW? I never knew that. He kept that quiet.


While he was a POW and served in the military and that's to be respected i still don't see how being a prisoner in Vietnam qualifies you to be president. So was Gary Glitter and nobody's going to vote for him.

But...but.... Palin is pretty and has a bunch of kids.

[Kirkland Laing]

Palin is a pretty hockey mom and McCain was a POW.
Obama is a gun-grabbin' muslim.

Did I answer them right?

Was McCain a POW? I never knew that. He kept that quiet.


While he was a POW and served in the military and that's to be respected i still don't see how being a prisoner in Vietnam qualifies you to be president. So was Gary Glitter and nobody's going to vote for him.

But...but.... Palin is pretty and has a bunch of kids.

I'm sure that'll get the ticket a lot of votes. I think there are a big bunch of people who think the election is just a big reality TV show and are going to vote for who they'd most like to see play the president on TV for the next four years.

[sourpuss]

Was McCain a POW? I never knew that. He kept that quiet.


While he was a POW and served in the military and that's to be respected i still don't see how being a prisoner in Vietnam qualifies you to be president. So was Gary Glitter and nobody's going to vote for him.

But...but.... Palin is pretty and has a bunch of kids.

I'm sure that'll get the ticket a lot of votes. I think there are a big bunch of people who think the election is just a big reality TV show and are going to vote for who they'd most like to see play the president on TV for the next four years.

If I have to listen to Palin's voice for four year I'll kill myself.

[Kirkland Laing]

But...but.... Palin is pretty and has a bunch of kids.

I'm sure that'll get the ticket a lot of votes. I think there are a big bunch of people who think the election is just a big reality TV show and are going to vote for who they'd most like to see play the president on TV for the next four years.

If I have to listen to Palin's voice for four year I'll kill myself.

I'm hoping they win believe it or not.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I understand the idea of her presenting herself as a fresh face and free from the capital hill hacks BUT when you say you fancy a fight with Russia, I think that's a little, um, stupid.

[El Kabong]

Here are some specific questions for you since nobody asks you any :

Explain exactly what legislation McCain tried to pass to help the economy.

Explain who Obama's bad buddies are.

In 2005 McCain co-sponsored The Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190 a bill which would have added regulation to Fannie and Freddie.


Obama's buddies: other than Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers, there are a couple of his TOP financial advisors who worked for Fannie and Freddie and got millions of dollars from their "work"