American Heavyweights running scared of David Haye

[smashup]

The facts are that Setanta demanded a top ten Heavy to satisfy the viewers and as part of the 6 fight deal
I don't think Haye's transparent at all and don't forget he went to Mormecks back yard and battered him which is something special imo.
I don't think you can really blame him for this circus but he's hoodwinked you into talking about him and that is exactly the way he operates.
He knows exactly how to play the media and is doing a fine job of drumming up interest.
We haven't chatted about the Heavyweights in any real depth since Lennox was king simply because no-one gave a f*ck about a sh*t division.
Haye has brought it back to life without throwing a punch.
I think Mr Booth has bitten off more than he can chew and his inexperience is showing.
Should have maybe kept Maloney as an advisor while finding his feet but these descisions are made and shared with Goldenboy promotions too (They bankroll Haye ultimately) so some of the blame must lie with them too.

[ross]

We arent talking about the heavy weight division though, we arent even talking about a ranked heavyweight fighter.

Over the past week, look at all the comments about Haye and they are basicly all pissed off with him or laughing at him, hes lost a lot of credibility with opening his mouth yet again, if hed have kept quiet no one would be berating him.

[Wayne]

The facts are that Setanta demanded a top ten Heavy to satisfy the viewers and as part of the 6 fight deal
I don't think Haye's transparent at all and don't forget he went to Mormecks back yard and battered him which is something special imo.
I don't think you can really blame him for this circus but he's hoodwinked you into talking about him and that is exactly the way he operates.
He knows exactly how to play the media and is doing a fine job of drumming up interest.
We haven't chatted about the Heavyweights in any real depth since Lennox was king simply because no-one gave a f*ck about a sh*t division.
Haye has brought it back to life without throwing a punch.
I think Mr Booth has bitten off more than he can chew and his inexperience is showing.
Should have maybe kept Maloney as an advisor while finding his feet but these descisions are made and shared with Goldenboy promotions too (They bankroll Haye ultimately) so some of the blame must lie with them too.

So it's us and not Haye who's announced twice that he's had an opponent all but lined up and then bubkis? What exactly is it we should be 'backing off' about? We're all waiting for him to announce his top 10 opponent and he's the one who seemingly can't make it materialize. We've only been holding Haye to the standard he has set. He wants to fight Klitschko- don't you think he should take on a credible foe to prove he's ready as opposed to just leapfrogging every guy who was in line first? If you want to call annoying people energizing the division then my wife must have been 'energizing' me this morning to take out the garbage. And the HW division isn't as shitty as you're making it out to be. Sure, it's nowhere near its glory days, but still a lot deeper than the Cruisers where Haye made his bones and don't toot your horn over Haye beating Mormeck in France. Big deal- notice Mormeck just retired at 36 years of age. It's because even he knows he's garbage. They had to cheat like hell to hand him the win over O'Neill Bell (sweltering hot arena, premature bell ringing, etc.).

[ross]

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my wife must have been 'energizing' me this morning to take out the garbage.

Id take the bins out if my missus energised me

Thats if energising involves her putting my willy in her face

[Bomp]

The facts are that Setanta demanded a top ten Heavy to satisfy the viewers and as part of the 6 fight deal
I don't think Haye's transparent at all and don't forget he went to Mormecks back yard and battered him which is something special imo.
I don't think you can really blame him for this circus but he's hoodwinked you into talking about him and that is exactly the way he operates.
He knows exactly how to play the media and is doing a fine job of drumming up interest.
We haven't chatted about the Heavyweights in any real depth since Lennox was king simply because no-one gave a f*ck about a sh*t division.
Haye has brought it back to life without throwing a punch.
I think Mr Booth has bitten off more than he can chew and his inexperience is showing.
Should have maybe kept Maloney as an advisor while finding his feet but these descisions are made and shared with Goldenboy promotions too (They bankroll Haye ultimately) so some of the blame must lie with them too.

So it's us and not Haye who's announced twice that he's had an opponent all but lined up and then bubkis? What exactly is it we should be 'backing off' about? We're all waiting for him to announce his top 10 opponent and he's the one who seemingly can't make it materialize. We've only been holding Haye to the standard he has set. He wants to fight Klitschko- don't you think he should take on a credible foe to prove he's ready as opposed to just leapfrogging every guy who was in line first? If you want to call annoying people energizing the division then my wife must have been 'energizing' me this morning to take out the garbage. And the HW division isn't as shitty as you're making it out to be. Sure, it's nowhere near its glory days, but still a lot deeper than the Cruisers where Haye made his bones and don't toot your horn over Haye beating Mormeck in France. Big deal- notice Mormeck just retired at 36 years of age. It's because even he knows he's garbage. They had to cheat like hell to hand him the win over O'Neill Bell (sweltering hot arena, premature bell ringing, etc.).

Exactly. I actually want to see him do well in the division, but he simply isn't participating.

I don't know about Smashup, but personally the energizing and excitment I want from boxing is watching them in the ring, sorting out who the best is in the only way that matters. All we have from Haye's heavyweight 'career' is a lot of contradictory hot air into a microphone.

I doubt people would be calling Ronaldo the best player in the premier league if all he did last season was put his feet up and bragg about his 'athletism' and 'physique' in comparison to all the players that actually bothered to kick a ball.