American Heavyweights running scared of David Haye

[Drago]

can u imagine haye vs hide the prematch hype would be awesome

[El Kabong]

Chapman?!?!?! Are you FUCKING kidding me?!?!?! Do you think JD Chapman is a worthy opponent? David Haye is supposed to be a title contender already and he's going to test his metal vs a guy who's last fight was vs Rich Boruff?!?!?!


If Haye fights Chapman then he's going to be as big of a joke as Amir Kahn

[sonny78]

This is getting daft

Haye is a big draw and apart from a tittle shot has to be one of the biggest pay-days out there for fringe contenders not to mention more TV coverage than most could hope for.

This is a dream scenario for any promoter How the fuck can you not have signed a top 10 HW and have a solid backup in 10 f**king months

Bring back Maloney

[smashup]

Should have stayed with him agreed

[sonny78]

Do you think if Maloney was to promote Haye

He would pull the old union jack suit out

he would have to update it with the Turkish republic of Cyprus flag or whatever Haye wears on this shorts now

[smashup]

hahaha class whistle that
I think people should get off Hayes back a bit really and judge him after he's actually fought
Already the hate brigade has come out the woodwork (Prob still bitter that we had the best Heavyweight of recent times in Lennox or maybe the thread title upsets them) and can't wait for Haye to fall at the fist hurdle....
I can see it now..."told ya so etc"
Let's let him fight a few eh people then we can judge him

[ross]

hahaha class whistle that
I think people should get off Hayes back a bit really and judge him after he's actually fought

The reason everyone is pissed off is because he is so transparent, bullshitting about how all these fighters are scared of him and trying to get a straight shot at Klitschko because he thinks he can blitz him like Sanders did but he dont want to risk his chin against any other worthwhile heavys.

Getting a straight shot aint so bad but its all the other bullshit, you can see straight through him that hes the one4 whos scared to face any decent heavys in case he falls flat.

Like someone has already said, hes had since the Macaranelli fight to sort an opponent but he didnt want to give any decent fighters that much notice to get ready and now hes doing it the cheap way by trying to get them on relatively short notice, he will end up with Sprott or Skelton, maybe even Williams, which in it self wouldnt be a bad start at heavy but not when youve gobbed off about a top contender from the top 10, that just aint gonna happen and thats where the annoyance comes from.

[smashup]

The facts are that Setanta demanded a top ten Heavy to satisfy the viewers and as part of the 6 fight deal
I don't think Haye's transparent at all and don't forget he went to Mormecks back yard and battered him which is something special imo.
I don't think you can really blame him for this circus but he's hoodwinked you into talking about him and that is exactly the way he operates.
He knows exactly how to play the media and is doing a fine job of drumming up interest.
We haven't chatted about the Heavyweights in any real depth since Lennox was king simply because no-one gave a f*ck about a sh*t division.
Haye has brought it back to life without throwing a punch.
I think Mr Booth has bitten off more than he can chew and his inexperience is showing.
Should have maybe kept Maloney as an advisor while finding his feet but these descisions are made and shared with Goldenboy promotions too (They bankroll Haye ultimately) so some of the blame must lie with them too.

[ross]

We arent talking about the heavy weight division though, we arent even talking about a ranked heavyweight fighter.

Over the past week, look at all the comments about Haye and they are basicly all pissed off with him or laughing at him, hes lost a lot of credibility with opening his mouth yet again, if hed have kept quiet no one would be berating him.

[Wayne]

The facts are that Setanta demanded a top ten Heavy to satisfy the viewers and as part of the 6 fight deal
I don't think Haye's transparent at all and don't forget he went to Mormecks back yard and battered him which is something special imo.
I don't think you can really blame him for this circus but he's hoodwinked you into talking about him and that is exactly the way he operates.
He knows exactly how to play the media and is doing a fine job of drumming up interest.
We haven't chatted about the Heavyweights in any real depth since Lennox was king simply because no-one gave a f*ck about a sh*t division.
Haye has brought it back to life without throwing a punch.
I think Mr Booth has bitten off more than he can chew and his inexperience is showing.
Should have maybe kept Maloney as an advisor while finding his feet but these descisions are made and shared with Goldenboy promotions too (They bankroll Haye ultimately) so some of the blame must lie with them too.

So it's us and not Haye who's announced twice that he's had an opponent all but lined up and then bubkis? What exactly is it we should be 'backing off' about? We're all waiting for him to announce his top 10 opponent and he's the one who seemingly can't make it materialize. We've only been holding Haye to the standard he has set. He wants to fight Klitschko- don't you think he should take on a credible foe to prove he's ready as opposed to just leapfrogging every guy who was in line first? If you want to call annoying people energizing the division then my wife must have been 'energizing' me this morning to take out the garbage. And the HW division isn't as shitty as you're making it out to be. Sure, it's nowhere near its glory days, but still a lot deeper than the Cruisers where Haye made his bones and don't toot your horn over Haye beating Mormeck in France. Big deal- notice Mormeck just retired at 36 years of age. It's because even he knows he's garbage. They had to cheat like hell to hand him the win over O'Neill Bell (sweltering hot arena, premature bell ringing, etc.).

[ross]

[quote=Killface;600314]

my wife must have been 'energizing' me this morning to take out the garbage.

Id take the bins out if my missus energised me

Thats if energising involves her putting my willy in her face

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

American Heavyweights are piss poor and have been for a while. Protected records and then they lose meekly. Great Shame.

Who will fight Haye - it doesn't matter - they are getting KTFO.

Holyfield had one or 2 easy fights when he stepped upto Heavy and Haye probably will aswell - cos people apart from old fogies looking for a last payday won't fight him.

Herbie Hide is an option if they need a name.

Alright then let's make a list of NON-American heavyweights that don't have padded records, and I'm talking current fighters.

I love how American HWs get dogged...

It's true to an extent but I'd love for ONE THING TO HAPPEN!

I wish that they stopped football and basketball in the US for like 30 years...

The US would be knocking the teeth into the back of the throats of the world in no time.

As far as Haye... Stop being a tool and fight SOMEONE... at this point no one even cares... SOMEONE.

Get your feet wet so we can watch Wlad put the wood to you, bigmouth!

[Deanrw]

hahaha class whistle that
I think people should get off Hayes back a bit really and judge him after he's actually fought
Already the hate brigade has come out the woodwork (Prob still bitter that we had the best Heavyweight of recent times in Lennox or maybe the thread title upsets them) and can't wait for Haye to fall at the fist hurdle....
I can see it now..."told ya so etc"
Let's let him fight a few eh people then we can judge him

It's not a hate brigade. It is just that many are getting tired of the hype brigade. If you talk the talk, you damn well better be prepared to walk it also. Haye is busy trying to mislead and take shortcuts. He really needs to step up, offer a true contender (like he promised) a fight all the while offering them a payday that they are used to and expect. it is not rocket science.

If he is so up on himself he should have no problem putting money on the table.

[luvfightgame]

hahaha class whistle that
I think people should get off Hayes back a bit really and judge him after he's actually fought
Already the hate brigade has come out the woodwork (Prob still bitter that we had the best Heavyweight of recent times in Lennox or maybe the thread title upsets them) and can't wait for Haye to fall at the fist hurdle....
I can see it now..."told ya so etc"
Let's let him fight a few eh people then we can judge him

He just needs to shut up and fight. I've only seen the guy fight once. I am not on his back, just tired of hearing about how all the heavyweights are scared of him. That's a joke and any real boxing fan knows it. Haye hasn't done anything for heavyweights to be afraid of yet. Hell the cruisers aren't all afraid of him. He's cheapened his own image with trash talk. It's ok to be loud, but at least make sense.

He's being judged on the only thing he's put up so far.......talk. That's his own problem for running his mouth, he's only offered one thing to be judged on.

[Bomp]

The facts are that Setanta demanded a top ten Heavy to satisfy the viewers and as part of the 6 fight deal
I don't think Haye's transparent at all and don't forget he went to Mormecks back yard and battered him which is something special imo.
I don't think you can really blame him for this circus but he's hoodwinked you into talking about him and that is exactly the way he operates.
He knows exactly how to play the media and is doing a fine job of drumming up interest.
We haven't chatted about the Heavyweights in any real depth since Lennox was king simply because no-one gave a f*ck about a sh*t division.
Haye has brought it back to life without throwing a punch.
I think Mr Booth has bitten off more than he can chew and his inexperience is showing.
Should have maybe kept Maloney as an advisor while finding his feet but these descisions are made and shared with Goldenboy promotions too (They bankroll Haye ultimately) so some of the blame must lie with them too.

So it's us and not Haye who's announced twice that he's had an opponent all but lined up and then bubkis? What exactly is it we should be 'backing off' about? We're all waiting for him to announce his top 10 opponent and he's the one who seemingly can't make it materialize. We've only been holding Haye to the standard he has set. He wants to fight Klitschko- don't you think he should take on a credible foe to prove he's ready as opposed to just leapfrogging every guy who was in line first? If you want to call annoying people energizing the division then my wife must have been 'energizing' me this morning to take out the garbage. And the HW division isn't as shitty as you're making it out to be. Sure, it's nowhere near its glory days, but still a lot deeper than the Cruisers where Haye made his bones and don't toot your horn over Haye beating Mormeck in France. Big deal- notice Mormeck just retired at 36 years of age. It's because even he knows he's garbage. They had to cheat like hell to hand him the win over O'Neill Bell (sweltering hot arena, premature bell ringing, etc.).

Exactly. I actually want to see him do well in the division, but he simply isn't participating.

I don't know about Smashup, but personally the energizing and excitment I want from boxing is watching them in the ring, sorting out who the best is in the only way that matters. All we have from Haye's heavyweight 'career' is a lot of contradictory hot air into a microphone.

I doubt people would be calling Ronaldo the best player in the premier league if all he did last season was put his feet up and bragg about his 'athletism' and 'physique' in comparison to all the players that actually bothered to kick a ball.