I love Joe Calzaghe!

[Fenster]

Mikkel Kessler can hit and this is probably the best puncher Calzaghe has fought but he isn't as dangerous as Pavlik in terms of power IMO, and he can't change a fight around with one punch like Pavlik can from what i've seen anyway. And Kessler only landed solid shots here and there other than that he got dominated.

Chris Eubank has got some good KO's under his belt but again look at his KO record, only average at best. Jeff Lacy had some good power but he didn't land a solid shot on Calzaghe...........

Then you have decent punchers like Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, etc. I would like to know who you really consider a real dangerous KO puncher out of Calzaghe's resume Fenster..........

Calzaghe has been decked by Mitchell, Salem, who aren't big punchers and they were both by single shots and they were both heavy knockdowns aswell i don't think Calzaghe has a granite chin by any means.

That's because after the Watson fight Eubank wouldn't even go for KO's (follow-up the attack, finish fighters when he hurt them).
All the guys you mentioned were hard punchers. You can go back through Calzaghe's 15 year career to find hard punchers.

I don't think Pavlik is a particularly devasting lights-out hitter either. If he stopped Calzaghe it would be after an accumulation as he wore the oldman down.

Questioning Calzaghe's chin is a bit silly. He was up instantly from all three knockdowns. Pavlik was bashed into a drunken mess by Taylor. Is Taylor a devastating, dynamite, dangerous puncher? Of course not. Any question marks you have over Calzaghe are doubled when aimed at Pavlik.

Eubank was never a devastating puncher. He started going the distance more often cuz his competition level had improved. Eubank used the Watson incident as an excuse for some of the gift wins he got. Eubank knows he should of lost to Malinga and Close. So he blamed it on him having problems stopping fighters since the Watson fight. It was a bullshiit excuse. Truth is Eubank was only a slightly better fighter than them. Look at his fight with John Jarvis. Did it look like he had problems stopping him? No. He threw his right with murderous intend. No hesitation. No thoughts of Watson dancing in his head. That's cuz Jarvis was a bum. No excuse was necessary.

He looked a devastaing puncher against Jarvis

He took Jarvis clean out with one punch. After the Watson fight Eubank would hold back when he had fighters hurt. Everyone saw that (if you followed his career that is ).

I never even knew he BLAMED Watson for his performance against Malinga and Close. What EXACTLY did he say?

One of the biggest criticisms against Eubank was he fought to the level of his opposition. So, it's hardly surprising he didn't look impressive against guys he should thrash

[Violent Demise]

That's because after the Watson fight Eubank wouldn't even go for KO's (follow-up the attack, finish fighters when he hurt them).
All the guys you mentioned were hard punchers. You can go back through Calzaghe's 15 year career to find hard punchers.

I don't think Pavlik is a particularly devasting lights-out hitter either. If he stopped Calzaghe it would be after an accumulation as he wore the oldman down.

Questioning Calzaghe's chin is a bit silly. He was up instantly from all three knockdowns. Pavlik was bashed into a drunken mess by Taylor. Is Taylor a devastating, dynamite, dangerous puncher? Of course not. Any question marks you have over Calzaghe are doubled when aimed at Pavlik.

Eubank was never a devastating puncher. He started going the distance more often cuz his competition level had improved. Eubank used the Watson incident as an excuse for some of the gift wins he got. Eubank knows he should of lost to Malinga and Close. So he blamed it on him having problems stopping fighters since the Watson fight. It was a bullshiit excuse. Truth is Eubank was only a slightly better fighter than them. Look at his fight with John Jarvis. Did it look like he had problems stopping him? No. He threw his right with murderous intend. No hesitation. No thoughts of Watson dancing in his head. That's cuz Jarvis was a bum. No excuse was necessary.

He looked a devastaing puncher against Jarvis

He took Jarvis clean out with one punch. After the Watson fight Eubank would hold back when he had fighters hurt. Everyone saw that (if you followed his career that is ).

I never even knew he BLAMED Watson for his performance against Malinga and Close. What EXACTLY did he say?

One of the biggest criticisms against Eubank was he fought to the level of his opposition. So, it's hardly surprising he didn't look impressive against guys he should thrash

If you followed Eubank career like you said you have you would know that all that Watson talk only came about after his gift wins. He needed something to blame them on

[Fenster]

Eubank was never a devastating puncher. He started going the distance more often cuz his competition level had improved. Eubank used the Watson incident as an excuse for some of the gift wins he got. Eubank knows he should of lost to Malinga and Close. So he blamed it on him having problems stopping fighters since the Watson fight. It was a bullshiit excuse. Truth is Eubank was only a slightly better fighter than them. Look at his fight with John Jarvis. Did it look like he had problems stopping him? No. He threw his right with murderous intend. No hesitation. No thoughts of Watson dancing in his head. That's cuz Jarvis was a bum. No excuse was necessary.

He looked a devastaing puncher against Jarvis

He took Jarvis clean out with one punch. After the Watson fight Eubank would hold back when he had fighters hurt. Everyone saw that (if you followed his career that is ).

I never even knew he BLAMED Watson for his performance against Malinga and Close. What EXACTLY did he say?

One of the biggest criticisms against Eubank was he fought to the level of his opposition. So, it's hardly surprising he didn't look impressive against guys he should thrash

If you followed Eubank career like you said you have you would know that all that Watson talk only came about after his gift wins. He needed something to blame them on

OK.

What EXACTLY did he say?

[Mr140]

Hang on Calzaghes nuts a bit more Mark i dont think a guy who makes fun of Roy Jones Jr competion and praise Joe competion has any right to judge what i say about boxing. Then makes a stupid theard about chins and includes Jones with the Khan shows what hater you are. Listen Calzaghe has shown nothing in his career that makes him better the Pavlik.

[Violent Demise]

He looked a devastaing puncher against Jarvis

He took Jarvis clean out with one punch. After the Watson fight Eubank would hold back when he had fighters hurt. Everyone saw that (if you followed his career that is ).

I never even knew he BLAMED Watson for his performance against Malinga and Close. What EXACTLY did he say?

One of the biggest criticisms against Eubank was he fought to the level of his opposition. So, it's hardly surprising he didn't look impressive against guys he should thrash

If you followed Eubank career like you said you have you would know that all that Watson talk only came about after his gift wins. He needed something to blame them on

OK.

What EXACTLY did he say?

"They claimed, of course, that many of my opponents had done enough to win. They claimed I couldn't knockout my opponents or cause stoppages. Yet they hadn't nearly a killed a man in the ring."

Did he feel that way after he robbed Malinga? Or stopped Jarvis? Nope. That lame ass excuse came out years later.

[kingfrnk]

i dont see how anyone can like calzaghe anyway. and can someone tell me why arum and frank warren and even enzo were tryin to get a pavlik vs calzaghe fight until after kelly destroyed lockett its plain too see joe is ducking pavlik just look at these videos. sorry but in reality joe fears pavlik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzyYHSPfXZU




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG7M4aalKU8

[Fenster]

If you followed Eubank career like you said you have you would know that all that Watson talk only came about after his gift wins. He needed something to blame them on

OK.

What EXACTLY did he say?

"They claimed, of course, that many of my opponents had done enough to win. They claimed I couldn't knockout my opponents or cause stoppages. Yet they hadn't nearly a killed a man in the ring."

Did he feel that way after he robbed Malinga? Or stopped Jarvis? Nope. That lame ass excuse came out years later.

Thanks, that proves my point

He was obviously, and understandably, concerned for his opponents welfare whilst fighting the contest.

Not everyone is a heartless tough guy like you VD

[ICB]

Thulani Malinga also should have 2 wins over Nigel Benn, and he beat Robin Reid when he was 40+. But when he met Jones he got battered from pillar to post.

[Fenster]

Thulani Malinga also should have 2 wins over Nigel Benn, and he beat Robin Reid when he was 40+. But when he met Jones he got battered from pillar to post.

He wasn't half bad that Roy Jones