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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Was he losing? I didn't see it but I saw that ESPN had Mosley up by three rounds going into the 12th. Not like that's definitive or anything.

    I thought this would be an easy fight for Shane
    Mayorga came into the ring as a Light Heavyweight...
    He looked huge compared to SSM.

    I had SSM wining and it was a hard fight at times for SMM because of the size difference.
    Matter a fact if Mayorga landed more then 5 significant punches throught the fight I'd be surprised... They were far and few.

    Where as SSM tagged him and fucken cought him flush but the bigger Mayorga took them like nothing.

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    I was picking Mayorga By Ko, Atleast I had hoped. But I did say if Mosley boxed him he would get him out of late, But if he brawled Mayorga would Ko him. It looked like my perdiction was right on Q in the first two rounds, Because Mosley looked scared to mix it up and Mayorga hurt him a few times but then Mosly started to box him and Mayorga lost once again to a top fighter..........Oh well shat happens but atleast I get to see Pavlik knock out Hopkins.
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    Bah Baldomir was 163 against Mayweather weighed in at 149, and Mayweather comprehensively outboxed him over 12 rounds, and Baldomir is a much better schooled fighter than Mayorga, and he still couldn't do anything. Oscar must have weighed in 10-15 pounds heavier then MAyweather as well, and Mayweather totally negated his physical advantages. Roy fought larger LHW's and made them look a lot worse than him like Virgill Hill. I am criticizing Mosley for not fighting those type of fights against Mayorga when he should be able to.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Bah Baldomir was 163 against Mayweather weighed in at 149, and Mayweather comprehensively outboxed him over 12 rounds, and Baldomir is a much better schooled fighter than Mayorga, and he still couldn't do anything. Oscar must have weighed in 10-15 pounds heavier then MAyweather as well, and Mayweather totally negated his physical advantages. Roy fought larger LHW's and made them look a lot worse than him like Virgill Hill. I am criticizing Mosley for not fighting those type of fights against Mayorga when he should be able to.
    Baldy is a whole lot more predictable than Mayorga plus he hits nowhere near as hard

    Besides Shane knocked Mayorga clean out whereas Floy never came close to dropping Baldimor.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Bah Baldomir was 163 against Mayweather weighed in at 149, and Mayweather comprehensively outboxed him over 12 rounds, and Baldomir is a much better schooled fighter than Mayorga, and he still couldn't do anything. Oscar must have weighed in 10-15 pounds heavier then MAyweather as well, and Mayweather totally negated his physical advantages. Roy fought larger LHW's and made them look a lot worse than him like Virgill Hill. I am criticizing Mosley for not fighting those type of fights against Mayorga when he should be able to.
    The man flattened him.Out and done.....how much more can you negate someones physical advantages Mayorgas 'skillset' makes Baldo look like a superb ring general.And Hill and Mayorga..... Come on ?

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Bah Baldomir was 163 against Mayweather weighed in at 149, and Mayweather comprehensively outboxed him over 12 rounds, and Baldomir is a much better schooled fighter than Mayorga, and he still couldn't do anything. Oscar must have weighed in 10-15 pounds heavier then MAyweather as well, and Mayweather totally negated his physical advantages. Roy fought larger LHW's and made them look a lot worse than him like Virgill Hill. I am criticizing Mosley for not fighting those type of fights against Mayorga when he should be able to.
    It's kind of ironic then that the entire HBO team, virtually everyone on here and all the other media 'experts' roundly criticised Floyd's performance against Baldimor as wholly negative and uninspired. I remember Merchant and Steward saying that any truly 'great' fighter would engage with Baldomir and go for the knockout, try and make it entertaining for the fans.


    Yet Mosely does exactly that and you think he should have stayed on the outside and boxed Mayorga, giving us another insipid Mayweather Baldimor type fight.

    Interesting.......but I think I know what type of fight most fight fans would want to see.


    Oh and one more thing, If Mayorga and Baldomir ever fight, my money is on Mayorga absolutley kicking Baldy's ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Bah Baldomir was 163 against Mayweather weighed in at 149, and Mayweather comprehensively outboxed him over 12 rounds, and Baldomir is a much better schooled fighter than Mayorga, and he still couldn't do anything. Oscar must have weighed in 10-15 pounds heavier then MAyweather as well, and Mayweather totally negated his physical advantages. Roy fought larger LHW's and made them look a lot worse than him like Virgill Hill. I am criticizing Mosley for not fighting those type of fights against Mayorga when he should be able to.
    It's kind of ironic then that the entire HBO team, virtually everyone on here and all the other media 'experts' roundly criticised Floyd's performance against Baldimor as wholly negative and uninspired. I remember Merchant and Steward saying that any truly 'great' fighter would engage with Baldomir and go for the knockout, try and make it entertaining for the fans.


    Yet Mosely does exactly that and you think he should have stayed on the outside and boxed Mayorga, giving us another insipid Mayweather Baldimor type fight.

    Interesting.......but I think I know what type of fight most fight fans would want to see.


    Oh and one more thing, If Mayorga and Baldomir ever fight, my money is on Mayorga absolutley kicking Baldy's ass
    Good post.

    Mayorga would bitch-stomp Baldo.

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    . . . . and would Floyd have knocked Mayorga cold like Shane did last night ?

    No chance .

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Mosley does what he needs to do to win. He was correctly tentative for the first two rounds while he was figuring out Mayorga's style and judging his power. Mayorga actually fought a very good fight last night. It was probably as as good a performance as he was capable.

    Shane didn't have the weapons to look good against Mayorga. Most people don't. ODLH is one of the few, because he has solid, meaningful jab, perfect footwork, and excellent one-shot power - the kind to stun a guy like Mayorga with one punch.

    For the first half of the fight, I though Shane looked old, but in hindsight, he was just being tactical. He looked great once he had Mayorga figured out. Then he systematically broke down and KO'd a much, much larger man. Even take the final KO punch. He was dropping righ after right after right on him. Mayorga gets up, and Mosley is throws a Roy Jones-eque lead left hook right on the button - knowing the Mayorga was focused on the right and Mayorga never saw that punch coming.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Shane take one more crack a Vernon.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Was he losing? I didn't see it but I saw that ESPN had Mosley up by three rounds going into the 12th. Not like that's definitive or anything.

    I thought this would be an easy fight for Shane
    Mayorga came into the ring as a Light Heavyweight...
    He looked huge compared to SSM.

    I had SSM wining and it was a hard fight at times for SMM because of the size difference.
    Matter a fact if Mayorga landed more then 5 significant punches throught the fight I'd be surprised... They were far and few.

    Where as SSM tagged him and fucken cought him flush but the bigger Mayorga took them like nothing.
    Until Shane got him late ofcourse . Until then there was no indication that Mosley could take him out like that

    Mayorga has never been layed out like that and hes fought guys like Tito and Oscar . Mayorga said he was surprised how hard Mosley hit him . Youve already mentioned the weight difference so given these facts I duno why people are being so harsh on Shane I think what he did was pretty impressive TBH

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