Pavlik Vs Hopkins Poll

[CountryBoy]

Pavlik has my respect. I said unless he changes he wont beat Kessler. Taylor who is a 8rd fighter took Pavlik all the way. And again Kessler fights at 168lbs in no way will Pavlik be a murderous puncher at that weight.


The loony 10% of Kellys fans will be brought down to earth after Hopkins its a 50-50 fight and in no way one sided unless Hopkins lands a bomb.

You never answered the question posed: will you give KP credit if he beats Hopkins? What if he knocks out Hopkins?

Again, not that I'm saying either will happen.

Pavlik has my respect. If he beats Hopkins it goes up if he stops him it goes right up.

Again its styles, this version of Hopkins is going to be very hard for a straight foward fighter to beat him. Winky couldnt do it neither could Tarver. Pavlik has 3 basic punches a jab, right cross and uppercut. I think Hopkins will not have to try and solve Pavlik but Pavlik need to solve Hopkins.

Winky has only a jab and defense, Taver was weight drained and just finished filming Rocky6 and is very timid when fighting to began with, Pavlik has a arsenal of weapons. Jab,Right Cross,Left/Right Uppercut,Left Hook and a good variety of Body punches. I see Pavlik stopping Hopkins easier than most think, But this is MY Opinion only.

Hopkins will be strong for a round or two and then start holding head butting and running from Pavlik. Hopkins is Great, But he is not the same guy he was once ago.

[CountryBoy]

The Poll is swinging for Pavlik, Thats good to see.

[Rantcatrat]

The Poll is swinging for Pavlik, Thats good to see.

Did you read the latest Ring Magazine's article on the fight? It is fair to say that it implied Hopkins may beat Pavlik. The age old adage rings true: styles make fights. Hopkins has a difficult style for Pavlik. Pavlik may bombard Hopkins with jabs and rights for about 5 rounds with Hopkins stealing a round or two, but what happens when Pavlik drops his guard a little bit and Hopkins counters with a hook? I am anxiously awaiting this fight. I really think it could go either way. If Pavlik drops or dominates Hopkins, he deserves the hype. If he loses, I don't think his stock goes down much. Remember Calzaghe beat Hopkins by split decision and Calzaghe is highly favored over Pavlik and already a sure-bet first ballot hall-of-famer (Hopkins is too).

[kingfrnk]

The Poll is swinging for Pavlik, Thats good to see.

Did you read the latest Ring Magazine's article on the fight? It is fair to say that it implied Hopkins may beat Pavlik. The age old adage rings true: styles make fights. Hopkins has a difficult style for Pavlik. Pavlik may bombard Hopkins with jabs and rights for about 5 rounds with Hopkins stealing a round or two, but what happens when Pavlik drops his guard a little bit and Hopkins counters with a hook? I am anxiously awaiting this fight. I really think it could go either way. If Pavlik drops or dominates Hopkins, he deserves the hype. If he loses, I don't think his stock goes down much. Remember Calzaghe beat Hopkins by split decision and Calzaghe is highly favored over Pavlik and already a sure-bet first ballot hall-of-famer (Hopkins is too).

Calzagnuts aint favored over no Pavlik ive seen on yahoo and atleast 2 other boxing websites put polls on who would win and all choose the GHOST. or maybe your just a Calzaghe fan

[Markusdarkus]

The Poll is swinging for Pavlik, Thats good to see.

Did you read the latest Ring Magazine's article on the fight? It is fair to say that it implied Hopkins may beat Pavlik. The age old adage rings true: styles make fights. Hopkins has a difficult style for Pavlik. Pavlik may bombard Hopkins with jabs and rights for about 5 rounds with Hopkins stealing a round or two, but what happens when Pavlik drops his guard a little bit and Hopkins counters with a hook? I am anxiously awaiting this fight. I really think it could go either way. If Pavlik drops or dominates Hopkins, he deserves the hype. If he loses, I don't think his stock goes down much. Remember Calzaghe beat Hopkins by split decision and Calzaghe is highly favored over Pavlik and already a sure-bet first ballot hall-of-famer (Hopkins is too).

Calzagnuts aint favored over no Pavlik ive seen on yahoo and atleast 2 other boxing websites put polls on who would win and all choose the GHOST. or maybe your just a Calzaghe fan

Thats because of, hmm how shall i put it? Pavliks barmy army.

Most writers will favour Calzaghe due to Pavliks style. Poll on Setanta had 91% Calzaghe winning. Polls are what Fox news use to spin, in the real world we knows.

Apart from Pavlik die hards who wins that fight. Hopkins (hopefully) brings alot of the loons back down to earth.

[kingfrnk]

Did you read the latest Ring Magazine's article on the fight? It is fair to say that it implied Hopkins may beat Pavlik. The age old adage rings true: styles make fights. Hopkins has a difficult style for Pavlik. Pavlik may bombard Hopkins with jabs and rights for about 5 rounds with Hopkins stealing a round or two, but what happens when Pavlik drops his guard a little bit and Hopkins counters with a hook? I am anxiously awaiting this fight. I really think it could go either way. If Pavlik drops or dominates Hopkins, he deserves the hype. If he loses, I don't think his stock goes down much. Remember Calzaghe beat Hopkins by split decision and Calzaghe is highly favored over Pavlik and already a sure-bet first ballot hall-of-famer (Hopkins is too).

Calzagnuts aint favored over no Pavlik ive seen on yahoo and atleast 2 other boxing websites put polls on who would win and all choose the GHOST. or maybe your just a Calzaghe fan

Thats because of, hmm how shall i put it? Pavliks barmy army.

Most writers will favour Calzaghe due to Pavliks style. Poll on Setanta had 91% Calzaghe winning. Polls are what Fox news use to spin, in the real world we knows.

Apart from Pavlik die hards who wins that fight. Hopkins (hopefully) brings alot of the loons back down to earth.

CAUSE ITS IN THE UK U IDIOT!!!!! duh

[Markusdarkus]

Calzagnuts aint favored over no Pavlik ive seen on yahoo and atleast 2 other boxing websites put polls on who would win and all choose the GHOST. or maybe your just a Calzaghe fan

Thats because of, hmm how shall i put it? Pavliks barmy army.

Most writers will favour Calzaghe due to Pavliks style. Poll on Setanta had 91% Calzaghe winning. Polls are what Fox news use to spin, in the real world we knows.

Apart from Pavlik die hards who wins that fight. Hopkins (hopefully) brings alot of the loons back down to earth.

CAUSE ITS IN THE UK U IDIOT!!!!! duh

Firstly dont call me an idiot.

And if you had read what i had posted you would have seen that polls are subjetive and totally inaccurate. You can fix polls by only aiming at an age group or location.


I`ll see you Sat night unless you worried to come online after the Hopkins bout.

[Rantcatrat]

The Poll is swinging for Pavlik, Thats good to see.

Did you read the latest Ring Magazine's article on the fight? It is fair to say that it implied Hopkins may beat Pavlik. The age old adage rings true: styles make fights. Hopkins has a difficult style for Pavlik. Pavlik may bombard Hopkins with jabs and rights for about 5 rounds with Hopkins stealing a round or two, but what happens when Pavlik drops his guard a little bit and Hopkins counters with a hook? I am anxiously awaiting this fight. I really think it could go either way. If Pavlik drops or dominates Hopkins, he deserves the hype. If he loses, I don't think his stock goes down much. Remember Calzaghe beat Hopkins by split decision and Calzaghe is highly favored over Pavlik and already a sure-bet first ballot hall-of-famer (Hopkins is too).

Calzagnuts aint favored over no Pavlik ive seen on yahoo and atleast 2 other boxing websites put polls on who would win and all choose the GHOST. or maybe your just a Calzaghe fan

Actually, I am a fan of both. Pavlik is great for American boxing and I hope he beats Hopkins because he has the potential to bring fans to the sport. Calzaghe is a great boxer. He was probably the best super middleweight of all-time. He has never lost in 45 fights! That is an accomplishment no matter how you play it.

The truth of the matter is that Pavlik is 26 years old. Calzaghe is 36 years old. Pavlik has many years to establish himself as a great middleweight. Pavlik has the potential to have a greater career than Calzaghe simply because he has more time. If Pavlik beats Hopkins, at the age of 26, his biggest wins will already rival Calzaghe's. He will have victories over Edison Miranda, Jermain Taylor, and Bernard Hopkins. No one will dispute his status among great middleweights. Beating Hopkins won't be easy. Like I said earlier, Calzaghe is an established professional, an all-time great, and he barely succeeded at the task. Can Pavlik do it at age 26? If he does, it will be quite an accomplishment. Pavlik doubters must acknowledge his abilities at that point. Then again, if he loses, is is that detrimental to his reputation? I don't think so. Hopkins is a first ballot hall-of-famer. Pavlik is 26. He has at least another ten years to develop a hall-of-fame career.

[LEGION]

I think it's funny how this board needs so many Pavlik/Hopkins threads; it's ridiculous watching the same people argue the same things over and over and none of it will change anything on fight night, lol.

Pavlik is going to have problems with Hopkins. Pavlik is my fave current fighter, and is one of my all time fave fighters as I just like his attitude and "I'm coming to beat your ass" mentality, but more highly skilled fighters than Pavlik have looked stupid trying to fight that old man. And something no one has done yet; and which I think will make this fight very close indeed, is go to Pavlik's body. Hopkins is going to crouch on those ropes and hold whenever possible but I'd be willing to bet they are going to target that long, thin core of Pavliks and if he goes down{which I think will happen as I've said a gazillion times in a gazillion other threads} it will be due to getting touched to that body. Pavlik is going to be standing right in front of this guy and I think Pavlik and his camp will have worked on avoiding that right hand upstairs in training camp; but I'm betting they aren't expecting Hopkins to work that body. At the least it will slow Pavlik down and give Hopkins more time to hug/hold/bore/get off the occasional shot, which is what he's good at. Hopkins will not in any way get into a movement game as eventually he'll get run down as we all know, so as usual he'll make it ugly but watch him target that body of Kelly's as he is weak there. Maybe I'm wrong; who cares, tell me I'm an idiot and I won't even care. Just another opinion

And even if Pavlik should ko Hopkins don't look for him to get any credit from it; people will just say that proves Hopkins is old and finished; which he may be, as 5 years ago I'd have definitively given this fight to Hopkins. Only thing it will show is that Joe couldn't do it and that's just because that old adage styles make fights. Joe will at the very least give Kelly fits, and probably beat him in a style possibly reminiscient of the beating Lacy took; though not to that degree.

I think Kelly will win but barely; same as everyone else, though it wouldn't shock me to see him lose. Yeah I'll cry like a baby if he does but that's life and Kelly will learn more from Hopkins than Hop will ever learn from him in this fight; take that to the bank. Why don't you guys stfu already We should just be happy we are having another great year of fights. The Calzaghe fans are as bad as Kelly's. Where are the Hopkins fans

[kingfrnk]

I think it's funny how this board needs so many Pavlik/Hopkins threads; it's ridiculous watching the same people argue the same things over and over and none of it will change anything on fight night, lol.

Pavlik is going to have problems with Hopkins. Pavlik is my fave current fighter, and is one of my all time fave fighters as I just like his attitude and "I'm coming to beat your ass" mentality, but more highly skilled fighters than Pavlik have looked stupid trying to fight that old man. And something no one has done yet; and which I think will make this fight very close indeed, is go to Pavlik's body. Hopkins is going to crouch on those ropes and hold whenever possible but I'd be willing to bet they are going to target that long, thin core of Pavliks and if he goes down{which I think will happen as I've said a gazillion times in a gazillion other threads} it will be due to getting touched to that body. Pavlik is going to be standing right in front of this guy and I think Pavlik and his camp will have worked on avoiding that right hand upstairs in training camp; but I'm betting they aren't expecting Hopkins to work that body. At the least it will slow Pavlik down and give Hopkins more time to hug/hold/bore/get off the occasional shot, which is what he's good at. Hopkins will not in any way get into a movement game as eventually he'll get run down as we all know, so as usual he'll make it ugly but watch him target that body of Kelly's as he is weak there. Maybe I'm wrong; who cares, tell me I'm an idiot and I won't even care. Just another opinion

And even if Pavlik should ko Hopkins don't look for him to get any credit from it; people will just say that proves Hopkins is old and finished; which he may be, as 5 years ago I'd have definitively given this fight to Hopkins. Only thing it will show is that Joe couldn't do it and that's just because that old adage styles make fights. Joe will at the very least give Kelly fits, and probably beat him in a style possibly reminiscient of the beating Lacy took; though not to that degree.

I think Kelly will win but barely; same as everyone else, though it wouldn't shock me to see him lose. Yeah I'll cry like a baby if he does but that's life and Kelly will learn more from Hopkins than Hop will ever learn from him in this fight; take that to the bank. Why don't you guys stfu already We should just be happy we are having another great year of fights. The Calzaghe fans are as bad as Kelly's. Where are the Hopkins fans

im a huge hopkins fan though it may not seem like it because i like pavlik so much now. but Calzaghe fans and Pavlik fans will never get along. and screw u markusdarkus queer

[Markusdarkus]

You never answered the question posed: will you give KP credit if he beats Hopkins? What if he knocks out Hopkins?

Again, not that I'm saying either will happen.

Pavlik has my respect. If he beats Hopkins it goes up if he stops him it goes right up.

Again its styles, this version of Hopkins is going to be very hard for a straight foward fighter to beat him. Winky couldnt do it neither could Tarver. Pavlik has 3 basic punches a jab, right cross and uppercut. I think Hopkins will not have to try and solve Pavlik but Pavlik need to solve Hopkins.

Winky has only a jab and defense, Taver was weight drained and just finished filming Rocky6 and is very timid when fighting to began with, Pavlik has a arsenal of weapons. Jab,Right Cross,Left/Right Uppercut,Left Hook and a good variety of Body punches. I see Pavlik stopping Hopkins easier than most think, But this is MY Opinion only.

Hopkins will be strong for a round or two and then start holding head butting and running from Pavlik. Hopkins is Great, But he is not the same guy he was once ago.

Pavlik is one of the most one dimentional champions ive ever seen.

Hes bloody good at what he does but in no way will he suprise Hopkins with hooks or footwork, they dont exsist in KP.

[kingfrnk]

Pavlik has my respect. If he beats Hopkins it goes up if he stops him it goes right up.

Again its styles, this version of Hopkins is going to be very hard for a straight foward fighter to beat him. Winky couldnt do it neither could Tarver. Pavlik has 3 basic punches a jab, right cross and uppercut. I think Hopkins will not have to try and solve Pavlik but Pavlik need to solve Hopkins.

Winky has only a jab and defense, Taver was weight drained and just finished filming Rocky6 and is very timid when fighting to began with, Pavlik has a arsenal of weapons. Jab,Right Cross,Left/Right Uppercut,Left Hook and a good variety of Body punches. I see Pavlik stopping Hopkins easier than most think, But this is MY Opinion only.

Hopkins will be strong for a round or two and then start holding head butting and running from Pavlik. Hopkins is Great, But he is not the same guy he was once ago.

Pavlik is one of the most one dimentional champions ive ever seen.

Hes bloody good at what he does but in no way will he suprise Hopkins with hooks or footwork, they dont exsist in KP.

pavlik isnt like that one dimentional any more he mixes it up a little now. im sure u seen the destruction of gary right.

[Markusdarkus]

Winky has only a jab and defense, Taver was weight drained and just finished filming Rocky6 and is very timid when fighting to began with, Pavlik has a arsenal of weapons. Jab,Right Cross,Left/Right Uppercut,Left Hook and a good variety of Body punches. I see Pavlik stopping Hopkins easier than most think, But this is MY Opinion only.

Hopkins will be strong for a round or two and then start holding head butting and running from Pavlik. Hopkins is Great, But he is not the same guy he was once ago.

Pavlik is one of the most one dimentional champions ive ever seen.

Hes bloody good at what he does but in no way will he suprise Hopkins with hooks or footwork, they dont exsist in KP.

pavlik isnt like that one dimentional any more he mixes it up a little now. im sure u seen the destruction of gary right.

Ahh the mighty Gary Lockett.

Calzaghe has 5 wins like that on his resume why keep bringing beating Calzaghe sparring partner with jab jab right hand up?

[kingfrnk]

Pavlik is one of the most one dimentional champions ive ever seen.

Hes bloody good at what he does but in no way will he suprise Hopkins with hooks or footwork, they dont exsist in KP.

pavlik isnt like that one dimentional any more he mixes it up a little now. im sure u seen the destruction of gary right.

Ahh the mighty Gary Lockett.

Calzaghe has 5 wins like that on his resume why keep bringing beating Calzaghe sparring partner with jab jab right hand up?

hmmmm, maybe because before that fight enzo,arum, and frank warren were talkin about a calzaghe vs pavlik fight but after kelly raped gary those talks suddenly died down. it was even on setanta sports that joe vs kelly was announced, and then joe refused to get beatin up. fact

[Markusdarkus]

pavlik isnt like that one dimentional any more he mixes it up a little now. im sure u seen the destruction of gary right.

Ahh the mighty Gary Lockett.

Calzaghe has 5 wins like that on his resume why keep bringing beating Calzaghe sparring partner with jab jab right hand up?

hmmmm, maybe because before that fight enzo,arum, and frank warren were talkin about a calzaghe vs pavlik fight but after kelly raped gary those talks suddenly died down. it was even on setanta sports that joe vs kelly was announced, and then joe refused to get beatin up. fact

Does FACT really mean RUBBISH where your from?

Calzaghe and Jones agreed on a deal a day after he fought Hopkins. Its a money fight id much rather Joe be beating up Pavlik but thats the way boxing is.

You`d know if you had been watching it before Pavlik beat Miranda.