Calzaghe's legacy.

[Markusdarkus]

Ok lets do Roy:


Hopkins = Green

Toney = Weight drained

Bums from 94-03

Tarver = Disputed


Ok lets do Hopkins:


Oscar = Small

Tito = Small

Tarver weight drained


Why do people keep bringing up crap about Calzaghe when EXACTLY the same arguments could be said with Hopkins and Jones.

Calzaghe haters are stupid.

James Toney = was a top 3 P4P fighther he always had weight problems, too much was made out of it. And James Toney in an interview said before the fight he didn't want any excuses regarding his weight. A little bit different to Chris Eubank who was pulled on late notice and only had 1 week to lose 20+ pounds.

RJJ = was just as green as Bernard Hopkins at the pro level, why do people keep using this ridiculous excuse ? RJJ had less fights than Bernard Hopkins.

Antonio Tarver = win was disuputed ? uhh yea whatever people wern't used to seeing RJJ in a close fight, thats why it was disputed at that time. I didn't think it was close at all the rounds were easy to score, and i had RJJ a clear winner by 3 rounds.

ODLH = Legit excuse.

Tito = Well the difference is Bernard Hopkins was a big underdog, Tito was high in the P4P rankings, and destroyed William Joppy like no one else had before. Bernard Hopkins doesn't get enough credit for this win, do you know how much of a favorite Tito was at the time ?

Antonio Tarver = Again Bernard Hopkins was the one moving up 2 weight classes, and was quite a big underdog. If Bernard Hopkins would of lost, there would of been an even more legit excuse for Bernard Hopkins.

One last thing RJJ had many more quality wins against.

Virgil Hill
Montel Griffin
Thulani Malinga
Eric Harding
Jorge Fenando Castro

etc.

Excatly!

Virgil Hill
Montel Griffin
Thulani Malinga
Eric Harding
Jorge Fenando Castro


Exactly the rest of his good wins (those are less than a Pavlik) have question marks.

So does Hopkins so does Wright (small guy king) so does Calzaghe.

Its worrying why idiots pull up Calzaghes wins then not expect to get annihilated on the board.

[ICB]

James Toney = was a top 3 P4P fighther he always had weight problems, too much was made out of it. And James Toney in an interview said before the fight he didn't want any excuses regarding his weight. A little bit different to Chris Eubank who was pulled on late notice and only had 1 week to lose 20+ pounds.

RJJ = was just as green as Bernard Hopkins at the pro level, why do people keep using this ridiculous excuse ? RJJ had less fights than Bernard Hopkins.

Antonio Tarver = win was disuputed ? uhh yea whatever people wern't used to seeing RJJ in a close fight, thats why it was disputed at that time. I didn't think it was close at all the rounds were easy to score, and i had RJJ a clear winner by 3 rounds.

ODLH = Legit excuse.

Tito = Well the difference is Bernard Hopkins was a big underdog, Tito was high in the P4P rankings, and destroyed William Joppy like no one else had before. Bernard Hopkins doesn't get enough credit for this win, do you know how much of a favorite Tito was at the time ?

Antonio Tarver = Again Bernard Hopkins was the one moving up 2 weight classes, and was quite a big underdog. If Bernard Hopkins would of lost, there would of been an even more legit excuse for Bernard Hopkins.

One last thing RJJ had many more quality wins against.

Virgil Hill
Montel Griffin
Thulani Malinga
Eric Harding
Jorge Fenando Castro

etc.

Excatly!

Virgil Hill
Montel Griffin
Thulani Malinga
Eric Harding
Jorge Fenando Castro


Exactly the rest of his good wins (those are less than a Pavlik) have question marks.

So does Hopkins so does Wright (small guy king) so does Calzaghe.

Its worrying why idiots pull up Calzaghes wins then not expect to get annihilated on the board.

They were examples RJJ has plenty more good wins than that, i don't have to list every single one of them. Because i do everytime we have this debate, and you have no real answer or debate to counter it. And plus im still waiting for you to debate my point regarding Joe Calzaghe's opposition, and how of i got annihilated

Its a debate jeez just because your massive fan of Joe Calzaghe, you have to except other people to criticize your fighter without getting defensive all the time.

[Markusdarkus]

Excatly!

Virgil Hill
Montel Griffin
Thulani Malinga
Eric Harding
Jorge Fenando Castro


Exactly the rest of his good wins (those are less than a Pavlik) have question marks.

So does Hopkins so does Wright (small guy king) so does Calzaghe.

Its worrying why idiots pull up Calzaghes wins then not expect to get annihilated on the board.

They were examples RJJ has plenty more good wins than that, i don't have to list every single one of them. Because i do everytime we have this debate, and you have no real answer or debate to counter it. And plus im still waiting for you to debate my point regarding Joe Calzaghe's opposition, and how of i got annihilated

Its a debate jeez just because your massive fan of Joe Calzaghe, you have to except other people to criticize your fighter without getting defensive all the time.

Listen you say Eubanks, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, Lacy have question marks so i say:

Jones, Hopkins, Wright all have the same question marks over their wins, no?

[Markusdarkus]

Excatly!

Virgil Hill
Montel Griffin
Thulani Malinga
Eric Harding
Jorge Fenando Castro


Exactly the rest of his good wins (those are less than a Pavlik) have question marks.

So does Hopkins so does Wright (small guy king) so does Calzaghe.

Its worrying why idiots pull up Calzaghes wins then not expect to get annihilated on the board.

They were examples RJJ has plenty more good wins than that, i don't have to list every single one of them. Because i do everytime we have this debate, and you have no real answer or debate to counter it. And plus im still waiting for you to debate my point regarding Joe Calzaghe's opposition, and how of i got annihilated

Its a debate jeez just because your massive fan of Joe Calzaghe, you have to except other people to criticize your fighter without getting defensive all the time.

Name one good win better than Eubank or even a Brewer Jones had between 94-02.

[Tysonbruno]

Virgil Hill
Montel Griffin
Thulani Malinga
Eric Harding
Jorge Fenando Castro


Exactly the rest of his good wins (those are less than a Pavlik) have question marks.

So does Hopkins so does Wright (small guy king) so does Calzaghe.

Its worrying why idiots pull up Calzaghes wins then not expect to get annihilated on the board.

They were examples RJJ has plenty more good wins than that, i don't have to list every single one of them. Because i do everytime we have this debate, and you have no real answer or debate to counter it. And plus im still waiting for you to debate my point regarding Joe Calzaghe's opposition, and how of i got annihilated

Its a debate jeez just because your massive fan of Joe Calzaghe, you have to except other people to criticize your fighter without getting defensive all the time.

Name one good win better than Eubank or even a Brewer Jones had between 94-02.

Montell Griffin could have beaten both Eubank and Brewer that is and im a massive Eubank fan i grew up on him so it aint just to get one over on Calzaghe.

[Tysonbruno]

Craig Cummings weren't really a good win i remember him the fireman he fought Steve Collins collins stopped him in 3 i think .