Calzaghe's legacy.

[Fenster]

So winning a world title doesn't make you world class? Interesting.

What exactly does make someone world class then?

[intoccabile]

Skill wouldn't hurt.

[Fenster]

Skill wouldn't hurt.

Yes, skill wouldn't hurt.

Comes in handy.

[intoccabile]

Skill wouldn't hurt.

Yes, skill wouldn't hurt.

Comes in handy.

Something neither of them have when against opponents who are actually world class.
Is Peter Manfredo world class too now? Because Lacy looked terrible against him.
What about Tsypko?

[Fenster]

I thought Sam Peter, being a former WBC champion, fighting Wlad Klitschko, Vitali, Toney, Maskaev etc.. made him world class?

Likewise with Lacy being IBF champion.

Obviously i'm wrong.

What is/was their standing in boxing then?

[leftylee]

So winning a world title doesn't make you world class? Interesting.

What exactly does make someone world class then?

Man do you want me to make a poll on the main board ? I can name a number of former world champs who aren't world class. I can't believe that the statement right there implies Gavin Rees or fukking Sultan Ibragimov was/were/are world class fighters

[Fenster]

I want you guys to educate me on what exactly makes someone world class?

Thats all.

[intoccabile]

I want you guys to educate me on what exactly makes someone world class?

Thats all.

Sure.. once you tell us what makes Sam Paters or Jeff Lacey world class.

[leftylee]

I want you guys to educate me on what exactly makes someone world class?

Thats all.

A fighter who has world class skills and beats top fighters time again.

[Fenster]

I want you guys to educate me on what exactly makes someone world class?

Thats all.

A fighter who has world class skills and beats top fighters time again.

Name some fighters that meet that criteria?

[ICB]

I want you guys to educate me on what exactly makes someone world class?

Thats all.

A fighter who has world class skills and beats top fighters time again.

Name some fighters that meet that criteria?

Pernell Whitaker.

[Fenster]

A fighter who has world class skills and beats top fighters time again.

Name some fighters that meet that criteria?

Pernell Whitaker.

So you would class Whitaker as just "world class?" Thats it?

[amat]

A fighter who has world class skills and beats top fighters time again.

Name some fighters that meet that criteria?

Pernell Whitaker.

Did anyone else laugh at this? haha

Um, this is ridiculous. If course Sam Peter is a world class heavyweight. What is the definition of world class? Someone who can compete on an international level with the best in the world. Obviously Peter can and has despite coming up dreadfully short against Vitali.

Calzaghe's legacy, well he's obviously one of the greats of the generation but if you want to compare it to Hopkins' and Jones, I'd say he falls short of both. He might have had better wins then Jones but never had the type of showstopping skill that makes Jones one of the greatest fighters of all time. Jones had what maybe nobody ever did, can't fault Joe for that.

Hopkins fought in a better division and lasted until his 40's! And he didn't do it just fighting in his backyard.

Also, I think the Lacy victory was the most significant Joe ever had. It was the only fight he was ever an underdog in as a champ and it was his best performance ever. To say the Lacy victory meant nothing is bullshit and just revisionist history.

[kingfrnk]

I want you guys to educate me on what exactly makes someone world class?

Thats all.

A fighter who has world class skills and beats top fighters time again.

Name some fighters that meet that criteria?

ooooooo oooooo can i say one Bernard Hopkins

[kingfrnk]

I want you guys to educate me on what exactly makes someone world class?

Thats all.

A fighter who has world class skills and beats top fighters time again.

I agree. when jermain beat taylor wasnt bhop p4p #1 in the sport at the time by ring mag. and people say pavlik has no skill but he beat taylor who is a fighter with good enough skill to beat bhop. and yet they say pavlik is still overrated.