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Wow, it must be nice to be able to read one's mind, and know why Kelly and his team decided to fight on.

It's really sad the way some people here take information, and twist it around in order to suit their need to bash, and tear down a fighter.

What proof do you have that they didn't take Hopkins seriously?

Anybody that knows anything about Kelly, knows that he is a guy that takes this profession seriously. He gives 100% in training, and makes the sacrafices necessary to prepare for a fight.

Kelly came up in the ranks the hard, and right way, he earned it. He put in the time, he put in all the hard work, and he took on whoever his promoter put in front of him. You don't become a champion, if you don't take other fighters seriously.

Do you really think that he would want to risk his undefeated record by not taking Hopkins seriously? Please. That's insulting to any fighter.

It's funny how you only use a portion of the story to suit your needs. Nevermind mentioning how he didn't want to cancel, because Kelly didn't want to let down the thousands of fans that were traveling all the way from Youngstown to see him fight. Nevermind that his team said that they made a mistake by not cancelling, and that they won't make that mistake again. Nevermind that Kelly believes in himself, and thought that he could go on with the fight.

For those that want to read the whole story, here it is.

Bronchitis, bursitis hurt Pavlik - Vindy.com News - Pavlik - Youngstown, Warren, Columbiana, Ohio


If you're going to take information, and twist it around in order to hate, that's sad, because every guy that steps into the ring should be given respect for doing so.
Yeah it has been happening since day one in here. They seem to be bashing him for making excuses, but every fighter after a loss makes excuses, There are no exceptions. Every single fighter does it. Sometime you might get a, well I fought a better man tonight, then that is followed by a "but". Other fighters will blame the judges, officials or promoter etc, but there is always an excuse.

I have never seen a fighter lose, especially a top fighter, who will then concede that his opponent was a better fighter and would always be a better fighter, but that seems to be what some of the anti-pavlik fans want. It will never happen as a fighter has to find reasoning with their loss and build back up mentally from it, even if they are lying to themselves.

A fighter will always rebuild mentally by first thinking they were not themselves, then slowly integrate into those thoughts what they could have done to improve the situation in their quest to getting back to where they were.
What about Cotto? Cotto took his loss like a man and conceded that Margarito was the better man that night. Now Cotto wants to come back and get another shot. That's how you lose, that's what a man does. Cotto loss his first fight in a much more brutal fashion but he knows that he can come back. He doesn't make any excuses. He didn't say things like "I don't know why I didn't go for Margarito's body", he said things like "Margarito was doing things to where I couldn't land good shots on the body." He gave Margarito that credit. Pavlik is whining, saying it wasn't Hopkins blah blah blah. He sounds exactly like Tarver after he lost to Hopkins.

More power to Pavlik for not wanting to let Youngstown down but if he really thought he was in any danger of losing that fight due to his injury then they would have definitely cancelled that fight and if they still went along with it knowing he wasn't healthy enough then that proves that HIS CAMP wasn't taking Hopkins seriously. There's no way Pavlik or his camp would have risked his 0 if they thought his injuries were going to hinder his performance. So why bring up all this crap after the fight is over?