Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
Sone of you guys are fucken ridiculous...

If you can't see that the ref. clearly "helped" Bute throughout the whole fight then you fucken blind and or just don't cope things.

I'll counter the arguements with something simple.


Would it have been Andrade who was on queer street, falling allover the place and being held up by the ropes and taking that HUGE shot like that from Bute the fight would have been waived off and if you can't agree with that then. FUCK YOU TOO.
Wow talk about being hostile just for people having different opinions, first off how in the hell did the ref help Lucian Bute early on ? yes he let Lucian Bute hold a bit too much, but he wasn't clinching that much and Librado Andrade was also allowed to get away with some elbows and etc on the inside.

So it works both ways secondly yes the ref warning Librado Andrade about holding was ridiculous. But that was only twice in the fight wasn't it ? thirdly i'll counter that argument by saying do you think if Julio Cesar Chavez would of been in the same situation as Meldrick Taylor, do you think the ref would of stopped the fight ?

You always defend Richard Steele in the Taylor vs Chavez fight, by saying that the ref's decision is final right ? even though Richard Steele was clearly counting fast and didn't even give Meldrick Taylor time to respond, Lucian Bute went down he got up at the count of 8. The ref see Librado Andrade slightly walking out of the neutral corner, because maybe he thought he was going to the center of the ring.

So Librado Andrade has to take some blame for that aswell, but whatever the reason its all irrelvant because the time in the round was up. All that mattered at that time was the ref's decision whether or not to let the fight continue. Lucian Bute looked at his corner twice so he was still aware, and he responded to the ref, infact i don't think any rules were broken at all if you look at the IBF rules.

I also think it would of been even more of a traversity, if Librado Andrade would of been awarded the fight when there was no time left in the round.
One thing I would like to point out. Why, and how, did the ref see Andrade supposedly move from the corner? When Bute went down, he instructed Andrade to go to the opposite corner, which Andrade did, Wright started his count with his back to Andrade, so why in the middle of his count would he check on Andrade? How many refs do you see do that in the middle of their count? Does he have eyes in the back of his head that we don't know about, or maybe someone from Bute's corner was saying something to him?

Andrade was no where near the knock down, in fact he was far enough away that he wasn't visible from the panned out shot with the camera. So he was maybe 3 feet from the corner? So what, the fighters are not required to be leaning up against the posts, no fighter does that. So why was it such a big deal for this fight?