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    Default Re: True heavyweights as p4p number 1 fighters of their time?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by intoccabile View Post
    Good question. But as long as Duran, Robinson, Moore, Armstrong, etc etc are still in the history books.. i'd NEVER even argue Ali was p4p the GOAT.

    When Roy went to Heavy he was p4p imo.

    When Ali was in his prime he was the P4P fighter of the sport at that time
    Henry Cooper flatned him in his prime

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrodub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by intoccabile View Post
    Good question. But as long as Duran, Robinson, Moore, Armstrong, etc etc are still in the history books.. i'd NEVER even argue Ali was p4p the GOAT.

    When Roy went to Heavy he was p4p imo.

    When Ali was in his prime he was the P4P fighter of the sport at that time
    Henry Cooper flatned him in his prime
    . . .and if Agelo Dundee didnt cheat then maybe he would have beaten Ali.

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    Default Re: True heavyweights as p4p number 1 fighters of their time?

    Yes if dundee did not cheat ali would definatly lost he was only semi contious in the corner if he had to come back out straight away cooper would only have had to push him over not even puch him.
    Just goes to show as i say ali was very vunerable all through his career if you take out the we love ali and he is the best thing and just judge him as a fighter you can clerarly see he had some major faults in the ring

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    Default Re: True heavyweights as p4p number 1 fighters of their time?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrodub View Post
    Yes if dundee did not cheat ali would definatly lost he was only semi contious in the corner if he had to come back out straight away cooper would only have had to push him over not even puch him.
    Just goes to show as i say ali was very vunerable all through his career if you take out the we love ali and he is the best thing and just judge him as a fighter you can clerarly see he had some major faults in the ring
    Muhammad Ali had smelling salts which wasn't allowed in the UK at that time i believe. So technically he should of been DQ.

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    Default Re: True heavyweights as p4p number 1 fighters of their time?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrodub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by intoccabile View Post
    Good question. But as long as Duran, Robinson, Moore, Armstrong, etc etc are still in the history books.. i'd NEVER even argue Ali was p4p the GOAT.

    When Roy went to Heavy he was p4p imo.

    When Ali was in his prime he was the P4P fighter of the sport at that time
    Henry Cooper flatned him in his prime

    Henry may have gotten one in on him but are you actually going to sit there and try to act as though Henry was a better fighter then Ali during that era?
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    Default Re: True heavyweights as p4p number 1 fighters of their time?

    Ali, Louis, Tunney, arguably Dempsey, Marciano could have been.

    I don't see how using the Henry Cooper fight which was before Ali's prime as evidence that he was p4p #1, he man handled Liston, Patterson, Archie Moore, and he was clearly the best fighter in his prime, and even after his prime in the sport(in the second half of the 70's it was probably Duran that was the best fighter)

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