The Word Shot in relation to Jones is used way to loosely

[the_PRODIGY]

it just happened that he got clocked by tarver.lost his confidence,,he aint got any confidence on his chin no more against glen johnson.it affected his usual laid back reckless abandon smooove style..thats it.hes far from bein shot.i think he slowly got his confidence back on his last few fights.there will be glimpses of the old roy jones jr against calzaghe.and joe can only hope those are short glimpses.

[leftylee]

If Jones isn't shot he's WAY past his best.

[JT Rock]

If Jones isn't shot he's WAY past his best.

Tell you what though, a way past his best Jones is still better than a 36 year old brittle handed Calzaghe who wings pitter patter punches with a porous defense.. Bernard dropped him once and wobbled him real bad with the last punch of the 7th round because Joe was just moving his hands and not punching..

If you look at the Kessler fight joe ate alot of punches and got dazed a few times because he was careless.. If Jons hits him with the kind of punches that those 2 were able to than Joe is gonna get stopped!!!

Roy can fight and dig Joe with his back to the ropes and hurt him enough to have him think twice.. Guaranteed at 36 and 175lbs Joe cant throw more than 60 punches around without blowing out of his ass with exhaustion, not to mention Joe has never been countered as sharp, quick and powerfully as Jones will do, it will be enough for Joe to ask himself if its worth getting busted up just to throw a few BS insignifigant flurries

[leftylee]

If Jones isn't shot he's WAY past his best.

Tell you what though, a way past his best Jones is still better than a 36 year old brittle handed Calzaghe who wings pitter patter punches with a porous defense.. Bernard dropped him once and wobbled him real bad with the last punch of the 7th round because Joe was just moving his hands and not punching..

If you look at the Kessler fight joe ate alot of punches and got dazed a few times because he was careless.. If Jons hits him with the kind of punches that those 2 were able to than Joe is gonna get stopped!!!

Roy can fight and dig Joe with his back to the ropes and hurt him enough to have him think twice.. Guaranteed at 36 and 175lbs Joe cant throw more than 60 punches around without blowing out of his ass with exhaustion, not to mention Joe has never been countered as sharp, quick and powerfully as Jones will do, it will be enough for Joe to ask himself if its worth getting busted up just to throw a few BS insignifigant flurries

How long ago was it when Jones put in a last good performance ?

[JT Rock]

If Jones isn't shot he's WAY past his best.

Tell you what though, a way past his best Jones is still better than a 36 year old brittle handed Calzaghe who wings pitter patter punches with a porous defense.. Bernard dropped him once and wobbled him real bad with the last punch of the 7th round because Joe was just moving his hands and not punching..

If you look at the Kessler fight joe ate alot of punches and got dazed a few times because he was careless.. If Jons hits him with the kind of punches that those 2 were able to than Joe is gonna get stopped!!!

Roy can fight and dig Joe with his back to the ropes and hurt him enough to have him think twice.. Guaranteed at 36 and 175lbs Joe cant throw more than 60 punches around without blowing out of his ass with exhaustion, not to mention Joe has never been countered as sharp, quick and powerfully as Jones will do, it will be enough for Joe to ask himself if its worth getting busted up just to throw a few BS insignifigant flurries

How long ago was it when Jones put in a last good performance ?

Let me ask you this, when was the last time Roy put on a shitty performance?? been a few years..

Joe looked awful and IMO lost to Hopkins, in which Joe was the recipent of the better more effective punches.. Believe me in the Garden the judge arent gonna give to shites about pattycake

[OumaFan]

I just don't see it, if anything I think he's been overrated by many coming into this. While there are some Calzaghe haters probably downplaying Roy's ability coming into this to take away from Joe if he wins, seems like there is some of the opposite of that going on with some Joe fans.

He's not shot to pieces but his legs are not there, very shaky, that's why he's spent so much time on the ropes in the last few years, he doesn't seem nearly as explosive even though he's still fast, his chin has obviously been dented and mentally I'm not sure if he's really there.

I have said this for a while, this is not a deal where I will say he grew old overnight if he loses to Joe. He might land cleaner punches early on but he won't be able to keep up as the fight goes on.

I think he has to hurt Joe, and not just once, I think he has to be able to fairly consistently rock Joe and I just don't see that happening. If I am wrong I am wrong, I was pretty spectacularly wrong about Cotto-Margarito but I'm much more confident about this than that fight.

[OumaFan]

not a fan of either actually but it would be a great story if Roy won.

[Bomp]

If Jones isn't shot he's WAY past his best.

Tell you what though, a way past his best Jones is still better than a 36 year old brittle handed Calzaghe who wings pitter patter punches with a porous defense.. Bernard dropped him once and wobbled him real bad with the last punch of the 7th round because Joe was just moving his hands and not punching..

If you look at the Kessler fight joe ate alot of punches and got dazed a few times because he was careless.. If Jons hits him with the kind of punches that those 2 were able to than Joe is gonna get stopped!!!

Roy can fight and dig Joe with his back to the ropes and hurt him enough to have him think twice.. Guaranteed at 36 and 175lbs Joe cant throw more than 60 punches around without blowing out of his ass with exhaustion, not to mention Joe has never been countered as sharp, quick and powerfully as Jones will do, it will be enough for Joe to ask himself if its worth getting busted up just to throw a few BS insignifigant flurries

The more I think about it, the more entertaining I think this will be. but From the perspective of being a Joe fan, I hate this fight. He has absolutley nothing to gain from it, all the pundits/fans/'experts'
like to point out to Roy's diminishing physical abilities, yet it is painfully obvious that Joe is no where near his best physically either.

At least Roy showed against Tito that he still had zip (if not outright power) in his punches, something that Joe hasn't showed since his fight against that Armenian fella who's parents forgot to put vowels in his name. Joe was never a one punch KO artist (very very few people are), but at his best he could still buzz and buckle fighters when he picked his punches, even though the stupid flurries you talk about have been creeping into his game for a long time now.

[JT Rock]

If Jones isn't shot he's WAY past his best.

Tell you what though, a way past his best Jones is still better than a 36 year old brittle handed Calzaghe who wings pitter patter punches with a porous defense.. Bernard dropped him once and wobbled him real bad with the last punch of the 7th round because Joe was just moving his hands and not punching..

If you look at the Kessler fight joe ate alot of punches and got dazed a few times because he was careless.. If Jons hits him with the kind of punches that those 2 were able to than Joe is gonna get stopped!!!

Roy can fight and dig Joe with his back to the ropes and hurt him enough to have him think twice.. Guaranteed at 36 and 175lbs Joe cant throw more than 60 punches around without blowing out of his ass with exhaustion, not to mention Joe has never been countered as sharp, quick and powerfully as Jones will do, it will be enough for Joe to ask himself if its worth getting busted up just to throw a few BS insignifigant flurries

The more I think about it, the more entertaining I think this will be. but From the perspective of being a Joe fan, I hate this fight. He has absolutley nothing to gain from it, all the pundits/fans/'experts'
like to point out to Roy's diminishing physical abilities, yet it is painfully obvious that Joe is no where near his best physically either.

At least Roy showed against Tito that he still had zip (if not outright power) in his punches, something that Joe hasn't showed since his fight against that Armenian fella who's parents forgot to put vowels in his name. Joe was never a one punch KO artist (very very few people are), but at his best he could still buzz and buckle fighters when he picked his punches, even though the stupid flurries you talk about have been creeping into his game for a long time now.

I agree there are so many variatables and layers to this fight, that make it great, would it have been better 7 years ago? sure, but the drama and dynamics wouldnt even be as close to what they are now

[ICB]

Tell you what though, a way past his best Jones is still better than a 36 year old brittle handed Calzaghe who wings pitter patter punches with a porous defense.. Bernard dropped him once and wobbled him real bad with the last punch of the 7th round because Joe was just moving his hands and not punching..

If you look at the Kessler fight joe ate alot of punches and got dazed a few times because he was careless.. If Jons hits him with the kind of punches that those 2 were able to than Joe is gonna get stopped!!!

Roy can fight and dig Joe with his back to the ropes and hurt him enough to have him think twice.. Guaranteed at 36 and 175lbs Joe cant throw more than 60 punches around without blowing out of his ass with exhaustion, not to mention Joe has never been countered as sharp, quick and powerfully as Jones will do, it will be enough for Joe to ask himself if its worth getting busted up just to throw a few BS insignifigant flurries

The more I think about it, the more entertaining I think this will be. but From the perspective of being a Joe fan, I hate this fight. He has absolutley nothing to gain from it, all the pundits/fans/'experts'
like to point out to Roy's diminishing physical abilities, yet it is painfully obvious that Joe is no where near his best physically either.

At least Roy showed against Tito that he still had zip (if not outright power) in his punches, something that Joe hasn't showed since his fight against that Armenian fella who's parents forgot to put vowels in his name. Joe was never a one punch KO artist (very very few people are), but at his best he could still buzz and buckle fighters when he picked his punches, even though the stupid flurries you talk about have been creeping into his game for a long time now.

I agree there are so many variatables and layers to this fight, that make it great, would it have been better 7 years ago? sure, but the drama and dynamics wouldnt even be as close to what they are now

It wouldn't have been better 7 years ago JT, because it would have been a one sided beat down

[JT Rock]

The more I think about it, the more entertaining I think this will be. but From the perspective of being a Joe fan, I hate this fight. He has absolutley nothing to gain from it, all the pundits/fans/'experts'
like to point out to Roy's diminishing physical abilities, yet it is painfully obvious that Joe is no where near his best physically either.

At least Roy showed against Tito that he still had zip (if not outright power) in his punches, something that Joe hasn't showed since his fight against that Armenian fella who's parents forgot to put vowels in his name. Joe was never a one punch KO artist (very very few people are), but at his best he could still buzz and buckle fighters when he picked his punches, even though the stupid flurries you talk about have been creeping into his game for a long time now.

I agree there are so many variatables and layers to this fight, that make it great, would it have been better 7 years ago? sure, but the drama and dynamics wouldnt even be as close to what they are now

It wouldn't have been better 7 years ago JT, because it would have been a one sided beat down

I agree, but then no one could have said anything since they were both in their primes

[Fenster]

The more I think about it, the more entertaining I think this will be. but From the perspective of being a Joe fan, I hate this fight. He has absolutley nothing to gain from it, all the pundits/fans/'experts'
like to point out to Roy's diminishing physical abilities, yet it is painfully obvious that Joe is no where near his best physically either.

At least Roy showed against Tito that he still had zip (if not outright power) in his punches, something that Joe hasn't showed since his fight against that Armenian fella who's parents forgot to put vowels in his name. Joe was never a one punch KO artist (very very few people are), but at his best he could still buzz and buckle fighters when he picked his punches, even though the stupid flurries you talk about have been creeping into his game for a long time now.

I agree there are so many variatables and layers to this fight, that make it great, would it have been better 7 years ago? sure, but the drama and dynamics wouldnt even be as close to what they are now

It wouldn't have been better 7 years ago JT, because it would have been a one sided beat down

True. Calzaghe with two good hands gives Roy a beat down. Fact.