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[luvfightgame]

I guess I'm just not cynical enough, how anybody after 8 fucking years of George Bush could think there was still no difference between Republicans and Democrats is beyond me, its just inane.

Do some research and you will see. There's differences but minor. Both supported bailing out the banks. Both support the same corporate influences. It's all about money. Don't believe the hype Obama is a good old boy. He's a member of the council on foreign relations.

[OumaFan]

I guess I'm just not cynical enough, how anybody after 8 fucking years of George Bush could think there was still no difference between Republicans and Democrats is beyond me, its just inane.

Do some research and you will see. There's differences but minor. Both supported bailing out the banks. Both support the same corporate influences. It's all about money. Don't believe the hype Obama is a good old boy. He's a member of the council on foreign relations.

Do some research?

Differences are minor?

No the differences are not minor, there are major differences on foreign policy, economic policy, social issues, everything.

I guess its cool to be apathetic about the whole thing, good for you, but this is just too fucking stupid to even argue about.

[luvfightgame]

I guess I'm just not cynical enough, how anybody after 8 fucking years of George Bush could think there was still no difference between Republicans and Democrats is beyond me, its just inane.

Do some research and you will see. There's differences but minor. Both supported bailing out the banks. Both support the same corporate influences. It's all about money. Don't believe the hype Obama is a good old boy. He's a member of the council on foreign relations.

Do some research?

Differences are minor?

No the differences are not minor, there are major differences on foreign policy, economic policy, social issues, everything.

I guess its cool to be apathetic about the whole thing, good for you, but this is just too fucking stupid to even argue about.

How major? Afganistan or Iraq. Either way it's keep us at war.
How involved was Obama in fannie mae? Did he get tons of money from them? Duh? If you're "nominated" by the 2 party system you are a part of it. By the way the health care benefits he's promising are impossible. We are bankrupt. And worse yet we have the baby boomer retirement coming that crashes the stock market, bankrupts social security and medicare. Haven't heard that one addressed at all.

I'm not apethetic, i'm disgusted with so many stupid people in this country. We are so far gone and fools keep voting for one of the 2 idiots promoted by the media??

We should have been replaying the boston tea party years ago. Just follow your new leader. He will change things??

Keep being niave. Boxing judges are always fair. Wars are always for righteous causes, and politics aren't corrupt.

[OumaFan]

What are you talking about, Obama made his campaign on not supporting the war and calling for a pullout.

The democrats in Congress at the time of the decision to go to war in Iraq were cowards politically, they still are, all politicians are, but they are the lesser of the two evils. I don't see how anyone can not see that, its nice to be ideologically pure and never compromise but that's for teenagers.

Do you really think that we would have gone to war in Iraq (not Afghanistan) if Al Gore had been president? If you do you're out to lunch.

And the idea that because Obama supported the bailout there is no difference between the two parties economically is again simpleminded. That is one issue, not the entire issue. If you think spend a shitload of money and lower taxes is a good plan, good for you.

I guess there's just a simple difference here, I don't see a point in just sitting back and whining because everything is not perfect, of course politics is corrupt, it is everywhere, but there are lesser evils. I was wrong in calling you cynical, you clearly are not cynical.

There's no point in arguing about this anymore, we are obviously of completely different minds.