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Neg. rep for the fanboy response. How about addressing some of the seemingly valid points he made?


Was a great fight until the 6th. Then Roy was badly cut and beat up yet still fought. This goon said it was a sparring session?

Yes that comment is "Cock" worthy.
Now, without the childish insults, that's a somewhat justifiable position to have. I don't agree, I thought is was an ok fight initially, then I just found it depressing (no, I'm not a Jones fan, but Calzaghe was clearly beating up the shadow of what RJJ once was and his showboating was obnoxious and disrespectful).

Hey Josh, you know you're my boy but how was what Calzaghe was doing any less respectful than Jones when he did it?

Roy Jones entrire career in his prime is one long highlight of those kind of antics.

Calzaghe was making a point that he could outflash Roy Jones.

People arn't giving Calzaghe nearly enough credit for this win, not only did he beat Roy Jones, but he was faster, slicker, he outboxed him, he totally dominated him.

Yes he showboated and yes Jones was not in his prime but Jones did that to lesser fighters than him his whole career.

And watching Jones in this fight and his later career has got me wondering what would have happened if he would have fought a prime Calzaghe.

I really think Calzaghe has a stronger will than Roy Jones. In his prime Jones never got close to being hit and hurt, being stood up to. I think he might always have responded like this when faced with a beating. He's an amazing fighter no question one of the best ever, but he doesn't have, and has never had imo a true warrior's heart like Calzaghe has. Calzaghe would always have been a problem for him.

Last night's fight is a good example.

I guarantee if the roles were reversed and Calzaghe had been badly cut and was getting completely outboxed he wouldn't have sought to survive like Jones did. Taking nothing away from Jones he took a real beating and stood up to the end, but his mindset was to make it to the finish.

Calzaghe in the same situation I believe would have made it do or die and just gone toe to toe around the 6th or 7th round and either got knocked out or else turned the fight around.

He's a real warrior and is willing to go out on his shield in a way few other boxers are.

I mean he was clearly really rocked by Jones in the first round, I initially thought he might not make it out of the round.

But his instinct wasn't to cover up, to survive, even to be more careful and fight defensively, a reaction that virtually every other fighter would have.

Instead he did the exact opposite, he dropped his hands stuck his head through the guard of Jones, goaded him into hitting him again and then beat Jones at his own game, completely breaking Jones' will.

I know it wasn't a prime Roy Jones, but it doesn't change the fact that Calzaghe imposed himself physically and mentally on him and literally through his showboating and antics brokoe Jones spirit.

I thought it was an awesome performance from Calzaghe.

The knockdown in some ways enhances it almost becuase he responded from it so well. There is no self doubt in Calzaghe at all, none.

When Pavlik had trouble in the first two round against Hopkins he seemingly gave up and resigned himself to defeat. He had no will in him to try and wrest the fight away from Hopkins. It was like he suddenly bottled it realising he was fighting the great Bernard Hopkins.

But Calzaghe even from a worse start doesn't entertain doubt for an instant. When he got put down it just gives him an air of defiance. He came back and started goading Jones, dropping his hands and completely dominated him. This is a man who just does not know how to lose.

When you look at his career now I think he's as good as Marciano. He's got that ethic, he just won't quit.