so Kevin McBride and Danny williams are 2 of the greatest heavyweights because they beat Mike tyson

so why dont i hear Trevor Berbick rated as a great........he did beat ALI or Larry Donald as he beat evander holyfield

beating old men who are past there best doesnt warrent a pass into greatness

calzaghes always worked on percenteges which heavly favour him to win......... jones is old and washed up you all saw it again lastnight, before that joe was heavy favorite to beat a 43 year old hopkins, eubank came out of retirement with 1 weeks notice to fight him, he only fought reid after reid was cooked by a 41 year old malinga, he only fought woodhall after he had beat clean layed out a few months earlier by a 40 year old etc etc etc

when has he been in a fight which before hand you look at and say " goodness me thats goner be tough he may get beat here" never. he's been a good boxer and only a real champion in the last 4 years as before the wbo was as real a title as the wbf belt is now. he was only seen as a world champion in britan..........people in other countrys didn't even know who he was

he's good, i used to be a fan but he isnt great