Giving Joe Calzaghe Credit For Beating This Version Of RJJ.....

[smashup]

I thought from midway on Joe Battered him and toyed with him at will...The evidence was on Jones face

[ICB]

I thought from midway on Joe Battered him and toyed with him at will...The evidence was on Jones face

I thought he done it all night long Smashup, RJJ had 1 or 2 goodish rounds and that was it. He was there for the paycheck he didn't even try and win.

Joe Calzaghe was leaving himself wide open and RJJ done nothing, rubbish fight IMO.

[BIG H]

Nobody that picked Jones to win, can now say that Calzaghe doesn't deserve credit coz Jones is shot - Fact

[ICB]

Nobody that picked Jones to win, can now say that Calzaghe doesn't deserve credit coz Jones is shot - Fact

BIG H its bit like you wanting England to win the world cup, you know they haven't got a hope in hell but you still root for em

[BIG H]

Nobody that picked Jones to win, can now say that Calzaghe doesn't deserve credit coz Jones is shot - Fact

BIG H its bit like you wanting England to win the world cup, you know they haven't got a hope in hell but you still root for em

Wanting (rooting) and Believing (Picking) are very different mate

[Dark Lord Al]

Calzaghe won and won big , but even Calzaghe himself knew Jones was shot , i mean he had been KOED twice before , yes any win is a win , but anyone who thinks this has an more relevance than say , Hector Comacho KOING Ray Leonard ,is wrong.
I mean his result wasnt even as convincing as Tarver or Johnson .

Credit for winning yes ,
Jones shot yes.

[Pugilistic]

I don't give joe much credit at all for the win.

It is completely obvious those that picked Jones to win were Jones fans.

Calzaghe winning a decision was the only option imo considering Jones has been past it for 4 years.

[jack2121]

I don't give joe much credit at all for the win.

It is completely obvious those that picked Jones to win were Jones fans.

Calzaghe winning a decision was the only option imo considering Jones has been past it for 4 years.

try 6 years (not tryn to be picky)

[JT Rock]

Fenster is right IMO, I was hoping and searched the clash in styles for reasons why Jones could beat Joe, and I stand by that.. I will not take the hindsight high road on this one.

I mean for the reasons I stated, albeit a little wrist got in there, Jones dropped and hurt Joe really bad and should have finished him off, that would have been something remarkable and Roy had greatness in the palm of his hand and he pissed it away, shame on him,, Joe did what he had to do, would the win be shinier if it was Roy of 2002?? Of course it would have but it stil has some gloss on it.. Roy fought tough and battled and despite him letting Joe clown him around he still was game.. Jones at that stage is still a pretty good fighter, just not as good as Joe is at this stage... Joe deserves his credit

I only wish he fought Hopkins and Jones sooner, as I feel a bit like I do when I think of Lennox's fights against Holyfield and Tyson. Just a few years to late.. But again Joe deserves his credit

[Gandalf]

Fenster is right IMO, I was hoping and searched the clash in styles for reasons why Jones could beat Joe, and I stand by that.. I will not take the hindsight high road on this one.

I mean for the reasons I stated, albeit a little wrist got in there, Jones dropped and hurt Joe really bad and should have finished him off, that would have been something remarkable and Roy had greatness in the palm of his hand and he pissed it away, shame on him,, Joe did what he had to do, would the win be shinier if it was Roy of 2002?? Of course it would have but it stil has some gloss on it.. Roy fought tough and battled and despite him letting Joe clown him around he still was game.. Jones at that stage is still a pretty good fighter, just not as good as Joe is at this stage... Joe deserves his credit

I only wish he fought Hopkins and Jones sooner, as I feel a bit like I do when I think of Lennox's fights against Holyfield and Tyson. Just a few years to late.. But again Joe deserves his credit

This fight is just the icing on the cake and a scalp to nail on to the end of the resume. Calzaghe was clear favourite to win this fight and he did what was expected. Couldnt ask for anything more really. Eleven rounds taken and a shocker to open proceedings with. All cracking fun.

And Ice, its just getting boring hearing you go on about Calzaghe all the time. Fenster and Conrad made some good points. You do sure talk a lot about Calzaghe, considering he's a fighter you dont have all that much time for.

[ICB]

Fenster is right IMO, I was hoping and searched the clash in styles for reasons why Jones could beat Joe, and I stand by that.. I will not take the hindsight high road on this one.

I mean for the reasons I stated, albeit a little wrist got in there, Jones dropped and hurt Joe really bad and should have finished him off, that would have been something remarkable and Roy had greatness in the palm of his hand and he pissed it away, shame on him,, Joe did what he had to do, would the win be shinier if it was Roy of 2002?? Of course it would have but it stil has some gloss on it.. Roy fought tough and battled and despite him letting Joe clown him around he still was game.. Jones at that stage is still a pretty good fighter, just not as good as Joe is at this stage... Joe deserves his credit

I only wish he fought Hopkins and Jones sooner, as I feel a bit like I do when I think of Lennox's fights against Holyfield and Tyson. Just a few years to late.. But again Joe deserves his credit

This fight is just the icing on the cake and a scalp to nail on to the end of the resume. Calzaghe was clear favourite to win this fight and he did what was expected. Couldnt ask for anything more really. Eleven rounds taken and a shocker to open proceedings with. All cracking fun.

And Ice, its just getting boring hearing you go on about Calzaghe all the time. Fenster and Conrad made some good points. You do sure talk a lot about Calzaghe, considering he's a fighter you dont have all that much time for.

Uhh i've got nothing against Joe Calzaghe Miles, if i hated him that much as your saying i wouldn't have bought his career set would i ? all i have basically said is that im not giving him credit for beating a fighter 7 years past his prime.

And i don't care if people think im a hater i know im not, i just speak my mind thats it. I give Joe Calzaghe credit for beating Bernard Hopkins, because he clearly has alot left in the tank. But RJJ ever since the John Ruiz fight has showed no signs of being the fighter he was once. And has looked pretty bad in every single fight since the John Ruiz fight.

You say Conrad, Fenster, make some good points but all they've done is basically agree with me that RJJ is no longer the fighter he was once was. Nowhere even near it, and just because a few other people picked him to win, doesn't change the fact he is indeed shot.

[richard (mossley)]

I said two weeks ago that for Jones Jr to win it would be the upset of the decade. Jones Jr is finished, was bewfore and is now.
Calzaghe has shown nothing, he was leagues ahead of Jones Jr before the fight and if I am tottally honest the fight was a mismatch.

[CGM]

Nobody that picked Jones to win, can now say that Calzaghe doesn't deserve credit coz Jones is shot - Fact

I don't buy this . It's entirely reasonable to say that most of the people who picked Roy expected a lot more from him that what he showed. Or else they wouldn't have picked him in the first place.

[ClubberLang]

I said all along that Jones was past it. He beat two journeyman and a washed up Trinidad on his comeback and some people acted like he was back. Hell, I thought Anthony freakin Hanshaw gave him a decent run for his money for the first half of the fight or so.

Calzaghe made a mistake by not fighting Pavlik first. He probably would have been the one to expose the young lion instead of Hopkins, adding to his legacy. Instead, he chose Jones because he's a bigger name and brought a bigger payday. But he could have fought Jones after Pavlik for his farewell bout. Beating this version of Jones does little for him other than fill his bank account.

[Althugz]

I thought from midway on Joe Battered him and toyed with him at will...The evidence was on Jones face

He was there for the paycheck he didn't even try and win.

Joe Calzaghe was leaving himself wide open and RJJ done nothing, rubbish fight IMO.

Hit the nail on the head there...Lol Calzaghe fans do make me chuckle. I thought it was plain and obvious to see that RJ was there for the paycheck and nothing else.

Completely disinterested...add Calzaghe to the fighters he's had in huge trouble and refused to dispose of. If it really meant that much to him to show the world that 'Mr Unstoppable' was back then trust me he would have made more of an effort to dispatch of Calzaghe in the 1st. What a statement that would have been?? One that any hungry boxer wouldn't be able to resist.

Look at the fight with his last knockout...2002 vs Clinton Woods - He was RELENTLESS, I would have felt sorry for any man including Joe stepping in with that very man because he was too much for anybody. He would not leave Clinton alone.

The fans and experts that picked him to win expected Roy Jones to turn up in some shape or form...and this is the only thing I disagree with you on ICB...you give credit to Joe for beating 'this version' of Roy Jones?

Everybody knows that NO version of Roy Jones turned up for this fight - past or present.

Calzaghe gets my respect for Kessler - Credit where credit is due..he showed me something there. Still not a fan. You need better victories, better performances inside those victories and better opponents.